Lovely Linda
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Music Head Wrote:yea, politics, religion, touchy subjects for most
politics I'm game, religion, not so much
difference is, in politics you have factual data to discuss/debate, religion it's all subjective
don't get me wrong, I am religious, read my bible daily, go to church weekly
just don't believe in pushing religious beliefs, I fail at preaching the gospel
politics, I can go all day
I'm a conservative and not shy about it
I watch Fox and MSNBC to get both sides of an issue
cspan to get fair and balanced
I was against the Affordable Care Act (people should stop calling it Obama Care)
However, republicans should let it go.
The democrats were elected, they passed it and the Supreme Court upheld it.
The damage is done and we have to live with it.
Doesn't mean I have to like it
A lot of laws I don't like.
Don't agree with your last sentence
well maybe I do, in the sense that all presidents are dictators to a degree
don't believe he hates America
just different views on what is right for the country
big federal government vs. my smaller is better
and that's the difference between democrats and republicans in my view
Also Music Head, the reason I don't think Obama is American is because he went to school in Indonesia. He had to be a citizen there to go to school there. He went to that church here for 20 yrs. (he claims) that is very USA unfriendly. Was he not listening.
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13-10-2013, 11:55
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how can Obama be a dictator???
he was voted in democratically by the "majority" of American voters????
a dictator usually occupies the "seat of power" by violence,intimidation and/or rigging the ballot!
going to school in a foreign country does not mean he is not "american" nor does it mean he(or anyone else) is "un-american"
also,
each potential leader,political party inn every country has their own ideas as to how a country should be governed and what policies they should impliment to achieve that...
ALL politial parties believe in the "future" of their respective country,they just have different ways of achieving that for all...
then back to "obama care"...this wasnt an underhand thing that was not known prior to him getting elected, the public knew what he stood for and elected him on his policies...
the main problem as i see it with America is....
you guys have been on the point of international bankrupcy for more than a decade now(probably 15yrs) and what has come before to change it has not worked, there needed to be new ideas and ways to change the system to try to move the country foreward...
Obama is offering something "new" for America to get it all moving again, it may or may not work, but at least he is trying something different as the "old" ways dont work in this "modern world"!...
the country needs to open its ears and eyes to what the rest of the world does and adapt in order to survive...
gone are the days that every nation blindly follows and looks "up to" America, the rest of the world now looks towards China as the economical and millitary power in the world and needs to adapt to try to keep up with them or sink....
i suspect that the tides of change have come and America has not set sail to move along with it....
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Lol
Damn
Guess he told us
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no offense intended guys....just an opinion from one who loves "america" as a place,and one who also sees things from the outside looking in wothout rose-coloured glasses!
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My brother served in the Canadian Army and went on tour in the Middle East - Golan Heights and then off to Afghanistan! When he arrived back to Canada and the aircraft landed, the first thing he did was bend down on his knees and kiss the Canadian soil with a tear in his eye! Some of his buddies perished in Afghanistan with our fellow American comrades! He told me that I had no idea how great a country Canada is and also the US! These countries are governed by makeshift pseudo democracy and brutal dictators! A far cry from President Obama and the great democracy we call The United States of America!
Canada has had free premium free medical insurance for over 45 yeas or more! It is one of the most revered characteristics of Canada! I heard a staggering figure the other day that over 50 million Americans have no medical insurance! How many of these poor souls have died because of this?
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I guess we will have to just agree to disagree mostly on this one y'all.
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Oh, one last thing on my end, check Obama's approval rating now and the march on Washington this morning. The veterans are furious. Obama had alot of people fooled when he was running for Pres.
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Which is why political discussions never get very far here
Hard to debate something like this in this format
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rebelgirl Wrote:Oh, one last thing on my end, check Obama's approval rating now and the march on Washington this morning. The veterans are furious. Obama had alot of people fooled when he was running for Pres.
He was re-elected
Did he fool everybody twice?
Why are the veterans furious?
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Music Head Wrote:He was re-elected
Did he fool everybody twice?
Why are the veterans furious?
Evidently he has alot of people fooled. My Dr. said and he is a doctor of internal medicine Obamacare will hurt all of us. It took Obama awhile to show his true colors. He claimed he was a Christian but before the White House he did not celebrate Christmas. The veterans are mad because of the blockade around the veterans memorial. They took it down themselves this morning. News showed them on TV. And as far as him going to school in Indonesia. He could not run for Pres. if he was a citizen of Indo. Just can't be done.