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The beatles and beyond...the solo careers
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20-07-2013, 12:09
(This post was last modified: 18-12-2013, 12:34 by Music Head.)
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20-07-2013, 12:12
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20-07-2013, 14:05
as good as the Beatles were, i think Paul and John didnt really hit their straps until they went solo...i think John came into his own on the Imagine album...Paul had to wait another couple of years until Band On The Run was released...
George, well, i think he was at his best sometime between The White Album through to his debut solo set All Things Must Pass, that said, i thought "somewhere in england", "cloud nine" and "brainwashed" were also superb albums from him... Ringo, i must say he reached his peak somewhere around 1989ish when he narrated Thomas The Tank Engine & Friends(seriourly, im not kidding!) back to the Beatles though...i do own all of their albums, they are all good bar "yellow submarine" and "magical mystery tour" which, imo were crap! i still think that they had one or two dud tracks on each album, and without the genius and foresight of George Martin they would have been just another 1960s UK beat band....and they were just that until Rubber Soul and Revolver, and it was at that moment they became the greatest band in history IMO the Beatles did record some rubbish that no-one else would have got away with like...Octopus' Garden, Yellow Submarine, Within You Without You etc etc, i could probably name another twenty songs to fit that catagory, regardless of those bloopers, you cannot deny the impact they had on popular music and still do, so hats off to those four lads from the shitty city of Liverpool...
"BTO....Bachman,Turner,Overweight
They were big in the 70s....for five minutes,on a Saturday,after lunch..." - Me 2014.
20-07-2013, 17:14
Magical Mystery Tour has I am the Walrus, eccentric Blue Jay Way, Hello Good Bye, the anthem of John's - All You Need is Love, Baby You're A rich Man, Penny Lane and the great track - Strawberry Fields forever...MMT song is a good one also. I saw Macca 4 years ago and I'll never forget it...sings 21 Beatle songs and 12 solo songs.
As far as just another band, Lennon and McCartney were gold together...they wrote great songs from scratch together and alone...the songs will endure the ages! Yes Martin was a brilliant producer , adding his classically trained compositions, strings, brass, woodwinds, recorded sound effects,etc. The Stones, Faces and The Who for example, had producers also, did they not?Having said all of that The Beatles played and played and played in Hamburg for a few years and improved their chops tremendously because of their extreme wood shedding! Each song DOES NOT sound the same , that's their appeal to me...lord knows today's pop music has a bit of the "same old same old" quality ! And George's guitar !!!!...complex chordings for original riffs in Day Tripper, Guitar Gently Weeps, Ticket to Ride, In My Life, the music sheets are complex that's why the songs sound so wonderful,,,a lot of four finger augmented and diminished chords ! Their solo careers has Beatles written all over it ! It has to...Paul's poppy sound for the most part and John's edgy hard sound..Plastic Ono Band album is his best for me. George had a respectable solo career with All Things Must Pass, Cloud Nine, and others. Ringo is Ringo, king of the novelty songs, and as a drummer friend told me, a very good drummer in his own right. THEIR SONGS STICK IN YOUR HEAD !!!!...such fabulous melodies! I WILL BE POSTING ALL THINGS BEATLE AND BEATLE related !
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20-07-2013, 17:17
Within You Without You is a brilliant song !!!!..and most importantly - IN MY HUMBLE OPINION !
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20-07-2013, 20:45
every time I hear CH say MMT was a crap album, I think of those tracks SteveO just listed
and I'm like.............wtf?
21-07-2013, 01:16
its been a long time since i heard MMT guys, just rechecked the tracklistings...
Track Listings [TABLE] [TR="class: listRowEven"] [TD]1. Magical Mystery Tour Documentary [/TD] [/TR] [TR="class: listRowOdd"] [TD]2. The Fool On The Hill (2009 - Remaster) [/TD] [/TR] [TR="class: listRowEven"] [TD]3. Flying (2009 - Remaster) [/TD] [/TR] [TR="class: listRowOdd"] [TD]4. Blue Jay Way (2009 - Remaster) [/TD] [/TR] [TR="class: listRowEven"] [TD]5. Your Mother Should Know (2009 - Remaster) [/TD] [/TR] [TR="class: listRowOdd"] [TD]6. I Am The Walrus (2009 - Remaster) [/TD] [/TR] [TR="class: listRowEven"] [TD]7. Hello, Goodbye (2009 - Remaster) [/TD] [/TR] [TR="class: listRowOdd"] [TD]8. Strawberry Fields Forever (2009 - Remaster) [/TD] [/TR] [TR="class: listRowEven"] [TD]9. Penny Lane (2009 - Remaster) [/TD] [/TR] [TR="class: listRowOdd"] [TD]10. Baby, You're A Rich Man (2009 - Remaster) [/TD] [/TR] [TR="class: listRowEven"] [TD]11. All You Need Is Love (2009 - Remaster) ...and i stand correct, i appologise!,its only the instumental,Blue Jay Way that i dont like....strawberry fields forever is a classic!, the rest arent too bad.. maybe when i think of MMT i am really thinking of the movie...which i cant stand...the best part of the movie is actually seeing John sing "i am the walus".[/TD] [/TR] [/TABLE]
"BTO....Bachman,Turner,Overweight
They were big in the 70s....for five minutes,on a Saturday,after lunch..." - Me 2014.
21-07-2013, 01:27
ive actually "gone off" ythe Beatles to some extent over the last decade or so...i used to think they were the "be all and end all" of popular music, im not saying they are terrible, but i find a lot of their stuff boring now,maybe its because ive heard it all a billion times now....
if i randomly listen to a beatles track on youtube now i inevitably click on "helter skelter","revolution","across the universe","back in the ussr","a day in the life" or "in my life"... IMO Helter Skelter is probably the greatest rock song ever made, it is so chaotic from the single note rifff which opens it to macca's blistering vocal assault right thru to that "ive got blisters on my fingers" wail at the end...the whole thing still sends chills up my spine,there aint nothing else in their arsenal of songs that sounds lik that, or anyone elses for that matter,awesome stuff
"BTO....Bachman,Turner,Overweight
They were big in the 70s....for five minutes,on a Saturday,after lunch..." - Me 2014.
21-07-2013, 01:32
i agree with you SteveO...their solo stuff does have Beatles written all over it,
i think you may have made a mistake with "while my guitar gently weeps" and georges guitar work on it mate....Eric Clapton actually played lead guitar on the White Album version of that one... not so sure about Ringo being a great drummer though as i read a Macca interview somewhere and he said he ended up playing drums on a number of their earlier studio tracks as Ringo couldnt keep time, so when Ringo left the studio Paul would re-record the drum part for the songs???
"BTO....Bachman,Turner,Overweight
They were big in the 70s....for five minutes,on a Saturday,after lunch..." - Me 2014.
21-07-2013, 03:11
another thought SteveO....
yes, of course all bands had "producers" but you will find they were standard "rock/pop" producers who were set in their ways as how to produce those bands... The Beatles producer, George Martin, was different, all he had ever produced was classical musicians and comedy records, thus he was thrown in the deep end with rock and roll, so he was learning as he went along also, he also has experience with these other genres and techniques that werent entrenched in rock/pop, thus he had the ability to make John and Paul think outside the square of simple rock/pop music...and it worked well, as they were responsive to his suggestions and also asked questions like "we want to do this,how do we do it?" so i guess they inspired eachother along the road to what they did, the above comment is not meant to be disrespectful to John and Paul as they were fine craftsmen of the 2minute pop song and Paul continues to be so to this day, but GM opened their ears and eyes to other possibilities, and of course they opened his also... they worked brilliantly together IMO, a great union of minds which John,Paul and later George took through to their solo material, Geroge Martin must have had a huge impact on Paul because he ventured out into classical and operatic material later also,starting with "the family way" soundtrack in 1966, and as we know, returned to classical and opera in a big way during the 1990s... again, dont missunderstand or miss-interperate what i have written, i am not criticising The Beatles in any way, they were young and eager and George helped motivate them to move in other avenues of music...!
"BTO....Bachman,Turner,Overweight
They were big in the 70s....for five minutes,on a Saturday,after lunch..." - Me 2014. |
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