John Coltrane

[OKCATHY1]

"...and once the seventh day had passed, God suddenly awoke and in an exasperated fit of tumultuos and inspired revolution, he created John Coltrane..."
(found somewhere on the Internet)


Any thoughts?

[Tiggi]

His A Love Supreme album is regarded as a transcendant Jazz masterpiece. I find it a tricky listen, but intend to keep returning to it.

I think listening to some of the more avant garde Jazz needs at least some understanding of Jazz theory, which I don't have...

[SteveO]

Coltrane's 4 CD Live in Japan is worth checking out also.

[rfleming342]

I love it! ha

[MoJoRaven]

Coletrane is a bit beyond me. I own A Love Supreme and I have given it several listens. Afterwards, I always have this sort of sneaky, embarrassed feeling because I come away from it wondering what exactly it is that I just cannot get hold of. I keep coming back to it (and suppose I will continue to do so) because I remember (quite some time ago) someone whose musical taste and wisdom I held in high esteem spoke of Coletrane with a reverence that could not be ignored.

B.B. King (whom I adore) is attributed with this pronouncement: "Jazz is the big brother of the blues. If a guy's playing blues like we play, he's in high school. When he starts playing jazz it's like going on to college, to a school of higher learning."

I think this quip comes closest to capturing what eludes me; when it comes to Jazz, I have the ears of a high school kid.

[Music Head]

Coletrane is a bit beyond me. I own A Love Supreme and I have given it several listens. Afterwards, I always have this sort of sneaky, embarrassed feeling because I come away from it wondering what exactly it is that I just cannot get hold of. I keep coming back to it (and suppose I will continue to do so) because I remember (quite some time ago) someone whose musical taste and wisdom I held in high esteem spoke of Coletrane with a reverence that could not be ignored.

B.B. King (whom I adore) is attributed with this pronouncement: "Jazz is the big brother of the blues. If a guy's playing blues like we play, he's in high school. When he starts playing jazz it's like going on to college, to a school of higher learning."

I think this quip comes closest to capturing what eludes me; when it comes to Jazz, I have the ears of a high school kid.

very nice post

[SteveO]

Hey Mojo,

Try Giant Steps and it may change your mind a little ! not as " out there " as A Love Supreme ! Coltrane did many styles.

SteveO

[vicchmill]

Canonized by the African Orthodox Church

[centermez]

I'm a saxophone player, and I know that there are more John Coltrane emulators out there than any other Jazz Master. But for a good reason xD he's soooo good. I agree with SteveO, definitely check out Giant Steps. I transcribed that a while ago, and it's definitely one of my favorite pieces by him

One of Coltrane's biggest steps in pioneering new and interesting Jazz Harmony was the interpolation of chords. Instead of using the standard ii-V-I progression (which is the most frequently occurring progression in jazz due to it's solo-bility) he would substitute chords over the ii-V-I, ending on the 'wrong' chord. But it sounded awesome... There's an entire world of jazz theory that he developed. If you're interested in further reading, you should check out Coltrane Changes.

[SteveO]

Since you are a sax player !!!!,,,are you familar with Jan Garbarek and who are some of your favorites..I also love (Professor)Anthony Braxton...very intelligent musical mind...avant garde and free jazz... also Coltrane, Ornette Coleman, Sonny Rollins (for his long unbelievable sustained notes !!!!), Wayne Shorter for his unforgettable playing on Weather Report's - A Remark You Made,etc...so many more to mention !!!!

I'm a saxophone player, and I know that there are more John Coltrane emulators out there than any other Jazz Master. But for a good reason xD he's soooo good. I agree with SteveO, definitely check out Giant Steps. I transcribed that a while ago, and it's definitely one of my favorite pieces by him

One of Coltrane's biggest steps in pioneering new and interesting Jazz Harmony was the interpolation of chords. Instead of using the standard ii-V-I progression (which is the most frequently occurring progression in jazz due to it's solo-bility) he would substitute chords over the ii-V-I, ending on the 'wrong' chord. But it sounded awesome... There's an entire world of jazz theory that he developed. If you're interested in further reading, you should check out Coltrane Changes.