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seriously Linda....

do you really think the US is the only country with crime and so called 'outlaws'....
WE ALL have crime on our streets but WE don't all have millions of people who carry them or own them and our crime rates are well and truly below those of the US...

simple reason is: less guns = less crime, more guns = more crime....its really that simple

the more people who have guns, the more people want them.

and lets go back to your Chicago statement.....
tight gun controls, yet lots of killings....

how many of those killings are done by good Samaritans helping out others against the bad guys???????

and "stops us defending ourselves".....

defending yourselves against what or whom????.....

and....
lawlessness in the US(as you quoted)....

why is there lawlessness in the US?
who created it?
and....
how do you see it becoming 'civilised' and a 'peaceful,law abiding society".

I can tell you now, the majority of the world including the allied countries do not think of the US as "the land of the free" "home of the brave" or "a country to aspire to" regardless of what the American media/politicians may have told you over the your lifetime...
the US to the majority of the world is in a constant state or war, civil war infact because it is a civilian war that is happening.

your wages are lower than the rest of the Western World and you have a healthcare system that is not 'free', not supported by Government to whom you pay taxes, and on top of that....
you have the highest murder rates of ALL the Western countries...

in the words of JFK...."ask not what your country can do for you but what you can do for your country"

which loosely translated really means...we give you nothing,we take it all and if youre lucky we'll throw you a morsel, but don't forget, this is the land of the brave and the free"!
"BTO....Bachman,Turner,Overweight
They were big in the 70s....for five minutes,on a Saturday,after lunch..."  -  Me 2014.


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Music Head Wrote:aha, I like the Isis plan

or another one to compliment it....

you could round up all the crazies in America...
give them one way ticket to Syria and say..."open season, go kill as many ISIS/ISIL members as you can"....
the ISIS problem would be solved before Xmas.
"BTO....Bachman,Turner,Overweight
They were big in the 70s....for five minutes,on a Saturday,after lunch..."  -  Me 2014.


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alright people
truce
we know where each of us stands on the issue

:hippie:

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Deal! Will not discuss it any further.
'The purpose of life is a life of purpose' - Athena Orchard.
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Right-e-o,

End of subject re: Gun control,

further comments on the subject will be deleted by either myself or MH.
"BTO....Bachman,Turner,Overweight
They were big in the 70s....for five minutes,on a Saturday,after lunch..."  -  Me 2014.


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with this rise in knife attacks in Israel
seems like they might need some stricter knife laws
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Music Head Wrote:alright people
truce
we know where each of us stands on the issue

:hippie:

Agreed! I think we have exhausted the issue.
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I did not mean for my Signature settings to even become such a issue if any.
It got started a few pages back by someone else and got out of hand.



BTW MH, you know we are probably in the minority about our friend Israel too :wink:
Same goes with "XMAS". We don't like that. We call it Christmas.
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Jim Webb drops out on the dem side
it was expected as he was my top pick

Joe Biden, who was never in it, makes it official
the media is so disappointed

and the beat goes on

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I thought Webb was the best also. Probably why Anderson was so rude to him during the debate.
I felt like slapping Anderson's face :laugh: He did not give Webb much time.
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