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Jim Lea and Slade - Snowman999 - 18-01-2017
I've been a life long Slade fan. Back in the 70s on Long Island I'd call the local radio stations and request Slade. They'd always say "We're not playing that, he sounds like he gargles with glass". Damn straight, and what wonderful sounds came out of Noddy Holder's mouth.
With as many hits as they produced, the movie Slade in Flame holds up as a great rock and roll feature, they deserve to be in the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame. I even once flew to England to see Slade 2 (minus Holder and Lea) and Suzi Quatro at Brighton Park. Great show.
I looked up Jim Lea a few years back and saw he released a solo CD called "Therapy". It took a long time to finally order it, and I regret not getting it years ago. If you were a Slade fan, or just a fan of great songwriting, check this puppy out. The new version contains 3 unreleased songs. Be sure to get these, they're worth it.
Lea plays everything but the drums and a few other minor parts. But, 98% of what you hear is his brilliance. Slade put out a ton of great material. Lea just continued with his voice. GREAT ALBUM!
http://jimleamusic.com/
This is one of my favorites. It's so true.
[video=youtube;m6sLmRb5woA]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m6sLmRb5woA[/video]
Jim Lea and Slade - bob_32_116 - 18-01-2017
^^ Interesting - certainly sounds nothing like Slade!
Jim Lea and Slade - Snowman999 - 18-01-2017
Musically I hear Slade all over it. It would be a completely different arrangement if Noddy sang this. But, I can picture it.
Jim Lea and Slade - CRAZY-HORSE - 18-01-2017
nice track, never heard it before but im a huge fan of Slade...
I believe Slade still tour in the UK and Europe but without Noddy Holder as he retired several years ago, I cannot imagine the band without him as his
vocals were so distinctive, but im sure theyd be big on the nostalgia circuit.
BTW, IMO, Noddy Holder would be in my top five rock vocalists of all time for sure.
as a point of trivia, Slade were the first band/artist to have three singles debut at #1 on the UK singles charts,
amazing really considering all the #1s Elvis/Beatles/Cliff Richard had in the UK.
the second band/artist to register three #1s that entered the chart at #1 in the UK were The Jam...
its been done many times over the last twenty or so years though, so that feat is not really a feat anymore I guess but back in the day.....
Jim Lea and Slade - bob_32_116 - 18-01-2017
CRAZY-HORSE Wrote:as a point of trivia, Slade were the first band/artist to have three singles debut at #1 on the UK singles charts,
amazing really considering all the #1s Elvis/Beatles/Cliff Richard had in the UK.
the second band/artist to register three #1s that entered the chart at #1 in the UK were The Jam...
its been done many times over the last twenty or so years though, so that feat is not really a feat anymore I guess but back in the day.....
I think basically it's a reflection of how music is promoted and sold, and how much that has changed over the years.
In the 1950s and 1960s, and probably through the 1970s as well, a song would get released. Radio was the chief means by which people got to hear it. A gung-ho radio station might have scored a pre-release copy, but for the most part the airplay did not come until after release. The song would enter the lower reaches of the Top 40 (not sure why, but 40 seemed to be the standard back then), then as more people heard it it would climb the charts week by week until it reached peak position. I would say between four and eight weeks was typical, though I don't have any figures to back this up. For something to enter the cahrts at a high position, you needed a core of buyers who were waiting for the next release by their favourite artist release and would just about buy it on spec. I think Hey Jude entered the local charts at No. 7 in its first week of release, and that kind of leap was almost unheard of at the time.
These days, of course, if someone like Ed Sheeran or Taylor Swift release a single and it only debuts at No. 2, it's seen as a commercial flop.
Jim Lea and Slade - CRAZY-HORSE - 18-01-2017
I do know why singles didn't debut at #1 in the UK as a rule of thumb,
because singles back in the 50s-80s were generally released on a Wednesday then and the charts appeared on the Friday or Saturday,
thus only a couple of days of sales prior to the counting of sales for the week, so in the case of Beatles (for example), and remember records were
actually expensive back then and not a priority for most people to purchase immediately, they would generally wait to hear them prior to purchasing them.
when The Jam debuted at #1 on the UK charts in 1982 with Town Called Malice they also released a 12" of the single which included a bonus live version of Malice,
fans bought both versions, obviously doubling up on sales for the period which sent it to #1 on debut (would have got to #1 anyway I suspect),
the Stranglers were held at #2 with Golden Brown, they lodged an official complaint with the BPI over 12" singles, they obviously lost and 12" singles became big
business after that.
and nowadays its different again, streaming plays a big part in the charts nowadays, so when a new single comes out fans will play and replay over and over again, thus boosting up the count for chart success, thus sales of 30,000 and streams totalling 1 million can now score you a #1 hit in a day or two,
and in the old days 30,000 sales wouldn't score you a top30 hit in the UK.
its interesting because an older artist whose fans don't usually use the internet will often outsell the songs in the top but without their fans streaming the song it doesn't
get as high as it deserves...
that is why the charts IMO are not a true reflection of sales in many cases and why when I post the charts I include links to the oicial charts which allows streaming figures,
total sales including digital sales, physical sales and sales of vinyl, and quite often in those four chart counts there can be two or three different #1s with vinyl and physical charts totally different from the official chart lists...
back tot he "core fans" comment bob_32,
after 1979 until their demise at the end of 1982 The Jam singles ALL debuted in the top 4 of the charts because their 'cult' of loyal fans bought their releases usually the day o release,
so if they sold 500,000 copies in the first week(if they got to #1 that is) is was common place for the single to drop out of the charts after eight or nine weeks because their loyal fans got it immediately and casual fans bought it in dribs and drabs over the preceding weeks as they heard it...
as for top 40 in the UK....
from the inception of music charts in 1952 in the UK until around 1955 there was only a top10, then it moved to a top20 chart, then around 1960 they moved to a top40,
later a top50, then top75 followed by a top100 and now a top200...
the apparent reason for this was the increased volume of releases over the years, which when you think about it makes perfect sense.
im assuming our chart here in Australia would have run along the same lines at times also?!?
Jim Lea and Slade - CRAZY-HORSE - 18-01-2017
I almost forgot....
in the pre rock days of the UK charts (52-55) the sale of sheet music also counted towards the sales of actual 78s...
in the early rock era (56-59) they used to count the plays on jukeboxes to formulate the charts and in the 1960s, radio plays
were counted...
so the annoying 'stream' count is nothing new in manipulating sales in the charts, it is an extension of the old days.
Jim Lea and Slade - CRAZY-HORSE - 18-01-2017
there you have it, an overall picture of the UK charts from its beginnings to the present.
Jim Lea and Slade - bob_32_116 - 18-01-2017
I don't think the release being on a Wednesday had anything to do with it. By that reasoning, singles could have easily got to the top spot in week 2 of release, but how many did that?
Jim Lea and Slade - CRAZY-HORSE - 18-01-2017
LOL, another hijacked thread!
I do have the answer to that Question bob_32,
I have a book of the "Guinness UK music charts" in paperback form that lists every weekly top20 list from the UK from 1955 through to the end of the 1970s,
and because we have just moved I need to find it, give me a couple of days to dig it out and i'll give you the answers or singles that got to #1 in the UK
in their second week on the chart,