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Vera Lynn - Snowman999 - 14-01-2017
Does anybody here remember Vera Lynn? Remember how she said that we would meet again? Some sunny day... Vera Vera... Pink Floyd - The Wall
I couldn't resist buying this, and then I bought a 5 CD set. She's GREAT!
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Vera Lynn - bob_32_116 - 14-01-2017
I think she was the 1940's equivalent of a pop superstar. What does this have to do with Pink Floyd though?
Vera Lynn - Jerome - 14-01-2017
Those are the lyrics from the Pink Floyd album 'The Wall' about Vera Lynn. Pink/his father reminiscing about WW2 and listening to Vera Lynn records. Roger Waters was obviously thinking about his father who died in WW2 in Anzio. He's using the imagery of WW2 to depict one of the 'bricks' in the wall which has driven him to social exclusion. The Wall is about the complete meltdown of a fictitious rock star called Pink who eventually becomes a demagogue. The Final Cut is specifically about the loss of his father and the insanity of war in general.
And slightly off track but still regarding Floyd, many people just don't hear the detail they put into their albums. The opening and closing lines of The Wall wrap around to complete the cycle of the album - 'Isn't this where' (end of the album) ....... 'we came in'. (start of the album).
Also the bubble bursting at the end of 'Welcome to the Machine' - a track about the ruthless nature of the recording industry and how Waters felt that the Floyd were really finished and that the bubble (their success) had burst.
This band put more effort into one album (artwork, effects, music, lyrics, staging) than most bands do in their entire careers.
Vera Lynn - bob_32_116 - 14-01-2017
Jerome Wrote:This band put more effort into one album (artwork, effects, music, lyrics, staging) than most bands do in their entire careers.They did indeed. I just never liked what I heard of The Wall, and about The Wall, enough to want it - as should be obvious from my ignorance of the Vera Lynn reference.
Back to Vera Lynn: She is still alive, and turns 100 this year (March 20). That's a refreshing read, after all the recent musicians' deaths.
Vera Lynn - Jerome - 14-01-2017
I am not that fond of The Wall myself. It's a bit too over the top for me but as a concert it was brilliant. Best visual experience I have ever had at a concert although the sound was not great. I remember when it came out the critics did not know what to make of it - they were dumbfounded. Did not realize Vera Lynn was still alive! That's new to me.
BTW The Wall was sparked off by Waters spitting at a fan at one of the concerts - he was fed up with people screaming and carrying on at concerts when they should have been listening to the music. Driving back from that particular concert in the limo he was talking to someone (either Bob Ezrin or the Floyd's manager) about the fact that he would like to build a wall across the stage so that people would be forced to listen to the music and forget about the spectacle. Whoever he was with said 'Well write about it then' - and The Wall was born. Inspiration can come from the strangest places. I have a number of books about The Floyd and however much the other members hated what he was doing to the band they all agreed on one thing - he was extremely hard-working. If something did not work out in the studio he would go home and rewrite it that night and the next day he had something new to offer the band. The rest of the band were pretty lazy at this time in their careers and did not have too much to offer in the way of new material. Waters kept Floyd alive until the split.
Vera Lynn - bob_32_116 - 14-01-2017
I appreciate that Waters was hard-working,but his suggestion "build a wall across the stage so that people would be forced to listen to the music and forget about the spectacle" is a silly one. Why would anyone go to the concert then, when they could just buy the albums and listen at home? Most people go to a concert to SEE the band. The spectacle is what they are there for, and what they will talk about afterwards "remember the flying pig?", etc etc.
That's not to say there are not rude concertgoers out there, but it's an occupational hazard that rock musicians have to put up with. It's not as though they are not handsomely reimbursed for their trouble.
Vera Lynn - Snowman999 - 14-01-2017
My Wall tales.
Pink Floyd sold out 7 nights at Nassau Coliseum. I had no tickets. Opening night people smashed windows and rushed in. So, the following night you needed to show your ticket just to get on the sidewalk 50 or more feet from the entrance doors. One night I'm walking the parking lot looking for an affordable ticket and I hear a couple of guys saying "I wish I had a camera no one is going to believe this". I thought the band was walking through the parking lot. I see a group gathered around a car hooting and hollering. I walk over and a girl is spread eagle on the car and her boyfriend is standing in front and they're just f***ing. I did not get a ticket that night, but I did get a show. Closing night I pick up five guys hitch-hiking to the concert. They have a bottle of Southern Comfort, beer and pot. I'm driving a beat up old station wagon and they gave me basically everything. I felt fine till I got out of the car and the air hit me. I woke up 3am with Dr's shoving tubes down my throat. After they left the room, I got up walked outside and stepped in front of the first car coming down the road. The guy gave me a ride back to my car. I never got to see Pink Floyd do the Wall. I wouldn't get on a plane to see Waters do it when the Berlin Wall came down. Missing seeing the Wall live was my one regret in life (yeah, I've had a good life. No, I don't have money. Never did, never will. I just know how to have fun) Then in 2010 Waters toured with it. The most MAGNIFICENT SPECTACLE EVER! Everything I thought it would and more with the new graphics. I went to at least to five shows. Yankees Stadium was my favorite. Though opening night at MSG, Trump and his entourage was there. They left during intermission. What a dumbass.
I know most people think they build a wall and perform behind it for the entire second act, but they don't. When you can't see them there's projections and it's only for a song or two that they're not seen. If you haven't seen it, Roger Waters The Wall is available. The documentary parts of his talking and stories is boring. But, it's basically the entire show. Also, somewhere on youtube a guy put together a magnificent HD version of a bunch of shows edited together with excellent sound. I can die happy now.
Vera Lynn - bob_32_116 - 14-01-2017
... and strangely enough, just as I was typing my previous post, I was hearing Vera Lynn sing. Well, not actually hearing her, it was a recording, you know what I mean. It was a podcast of one of those nostalgia radio programs.
Vera Lynn - CRAZY-HORSE - 15-01-2017
bob_32_116 Wrote:I appreciate that Waters was hard-working,but his suggestion "build a wall across the stage so that people would be forced to listen to the music and forget about the spectacle" is a silly one. .
I had tickets to see The Wall at Burswood Dome a few years ago (maybe four years ago, I cant remember), both Dani and myself got gastro the day of the concert and we couldn't go, was so disappointed!.
as for the whole build a wall across the stage concept, I thought it was highly original and had a genius stroke about it.
if you want a really dumb concert concept try Gorillaz, they stand behind a curtain during their concerts with lighting behind them to cast
shadows on the curtain, that is what the audiences get to see along with anime images of the carton characters from their videos,
theres no way id even pay $50 to see that,
but then again, Damien Albarn (originally from Blur) who created Gorillaz really is on his own "artsy" wavelength as I guess the vast majority
of their fans are also so I guess they "get" where the band is coming from???
IMO, KISS put on the greatest live spectacle I have ever seen in concert, its like a circus on steroids in which the steroids are also on steroids!
Vera Lynn - bob_32_116 - 15-01-2017
Well, if ever a thread was hijacked, this one was!