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Kendrick Lamar - Untitled Unmastered - Music Head - 16-03-2016
enters the Billboard Top 200 Albums chart this week at #1
from the Spotify world
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amazing album cover
what a load of shit this is
outtakes from his Butterfly sessions
I might buy the cd just so I can throw it away
Kendrick Lamar - Untitled Unmastered - Brokarucci - 16-03-2016
Oh, yeah. He made a smart move, by releasing such masterpiece with no mastering and chance to nominate it on Grammy.
Kendrick Lamar - Untitled Unmastered - Jerome - 16-03-2016
This might come as a surprise to you, but if an album is mixed correctly it does not need to be mastered.
Kendrick Lamar - Untitled Unmastered - CRAZY-HORSE - 17-03-2016
Quite correct Jerome, but one question for you...
Why do all these old albums get remastered and reissued?
Is it because the original masters were designed for vinyl and poor stereo and
don't sound ad good as they should in this digital age or is there another reason behind it???
Kendrick Lamar - Untitled Unmastered - Jerome - 17-03-2016
Yes basically what you are saying is correct. They are trying to 'pump up' the sound slightly. They are trying to make them brighter as well. One reason is the loudness war. The old classic albums sound quieter (because they are) than current releases - so they beef it up slightly using limiters & compressors to make them that bit louder. If only people would learn to use the volume control! Also some albums DO require remastering - Alan Parsons 'Tales' album is a lot better after being remastered. The drums are a lot more vibrant. And what works on speakers does not neccesarily translate well to headphones, which a lot of kids are using these days. And vice versa of course. So that's another reason to remaster. Whar worked in the old analogue world does not always work in the digital one. But, and this is a BIG but, if you have mixed an album correctly it should not require mastering at all these days. You can do all the things in the mix stage on DAW's these days that the old mastering sessions required. The main thing that mastering gives you is a second set of ears to make judgements on what is good and what's not. You have full control over the whole process. Aa a side note, I noticed that I made some glaring mistakes on my first project - too much reverb for one - and I am going to remix it at some stage. I was happy with it when I first did it but I have since noticed some glitches. Time is a great teacher. Busy looking at a plug-in from Zynaptiq called 'Unveil' and it is an amazing piece of software. Remember that in days of vinyl the vinyl cutting process was dependent on how loud your material was and that would determine the spacing of the grooves to prevent the stylus going bananas during playback. With digital, this is no longer an issue. This was also something to be considered during mastering, and still is if you are cutting vinyl.
But I suspect the main reason for remastering is to get the punter to buy the album again - i.e. to make money.
Kendrick Lamar - Untitled Unmastered - CRAZY-HORSE - 17-03-2016
thanks Jerome, I appreciate the time taken to explain the reasoning behind the current fad of "remastered" albums.
Kendrick Lamar - Untitled Unmastered - uncle salty - 17-03-2016
There's also the 'obsessed fan' angle, wherein they buy every note ever recorded by their favorite artist.
*[SIZE=1]uncle salty has a bit of a cynical streak where re-releasing music is concerned[/SIZE]
Kendrick Lamar - Untitled Unmastered - CRAZY-HORSE - 17-03-2016
uncle salty Wrote:There's also the 'obsessed fan' angle, wherein they buy every note ever recorded by their favorite artist.
*[SIZE=1]uncle salty has a bit of a cynical streak where re-releasing music is concerned[/SIZE]
I'll stick my hand up in the air,
I've been guilty of doing that in the past and will probably do so again at some point.
Kendrick Lamar - Untitled Unmastered - uncle salty - 17-03-2016
Oh, I'm guilty of that as well.
Re-mastering is right up there with the box sets
The set contains :26 seconds of someone tuning their guitar, or two band members discussing a chord change, or some other such nonsense.
They call that 'previously unreleased material' so the fans will buy it.
Technically, it is previously unreleased material.
Still, though, kind of a slimy way to sell it.
Kendrick Lamar - Untitled Unmastered - Jerome - 17-03-2016
I bought the Floyd 'Immersion Sets' mainly for the artwork/books/gimmicks etc. There is some new music - concerts etc. but as a dedicated fan it was just one of those 'I have to have it' decisions. I wonder how much I have spent on Floyd material to date. Could probably have bought a car with what I have spent.