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Wanting to start big but ended up with very few compositions - caters - 27-10-2015 After a few years of piano playing I wanted to become a famous composer like Mozart and Beethoven. So I started by trying to write a symphony. But I was like "Where should I start? What instrument/instruments should I use first? What key signature? What time signature? etc." I had so many questions popping up in my head that I just couldn't do it. So I thought about doing a piano concerto. At that time I was learning Piano concerto no. 21 by Mozart. I thought that if I use the piano as a base. I can figure out the rest of the orchestra. But I still couldn't do it. This is when I said to myself "You might want to start big but really, you have to start with simple sonatas before you get to orchestral stuff." So I wrote the first movement of a piano sonata in Bb. It was written in Mozart's style(That is exposition in original key, development in a minor key, start of recapitulation in a different key than the original, end of recapitulation in original key.) When I played it, it also felt like mozart in that it was simple but complex at the same time. I was then trying to write the second movement of it when I lost my composition book. To this day I still haven't found my composition book. Because of that, every time I try to play one of my compositions I either don't remember how to play it or it ends up being different every time. I really had beethoven in my mind when this whole composition thing started since he wrote symphonies before he wrote piano sonatas and I wanted to be the same way. Is there anything that can help me answer those musical questions easier and write orchestral pieces and not just piano pieces? Listening to orchestral pieces has not helped with it at all. It has just made me want to either play a piano concerto with an orchestra or play the piano solo transcription of the piece. Wanting to start big but ended up with very few compositions - CRAZY-HORSE - 28-10-2015 You've got to start small if people like what you do you will get bigger.... Don't beat yourself up over trying to be Mozart, try being yourself... Do you think The Beatles wanted to conquer the world??? They were happy playing seedy bars in Germany and at The Cavern... Success found them not the other way round... That said, its great you've got ambition and high esteem/self confidence in thinking you can be as good as those great composers but just keep plugging along, if its meant to be, it will. Wanting to start big but ended up with very few compositions - caters - 28-08-2016 Yeah, that is what I realized when I couldn't do a symphony or a piano concerto and is why I wrote a sonata instead(or at least tried to). I don't know why my composition book was lost though but it has been lost since I tried to finish writing the sonata. So I have an unfinished sonata somewhere but I have never been able to find it. And while theoretically I could turn notebook paper into musical paper or use plain paper and draw the staves myself, that is much harder than using a composition book, especially the plain paper method where you draw the staves yourself. I mean, I might understand "Okay, despite the wobble, this is Bb in the 2nd octave." or whatever it is but somebody else might mistake that note for a G or a D or some other note. Everything but the staves I can get to look right. If I try to draw a staff, I get wobbling lines and sometimes even crossing lines. So yeah, I have an unfinished sonata that despite years of trying to find it, I can't. Because of that, I haven't been composing much. If I hadn't lost it, who knows how many sonatas and other pieces I would have written during those several years. I might have written a symphony even if that composition book hadn't disappeared. Wanting to start big but ended up with very few compositions - Oceansoul - 28-08-2016 caters Wrote:After a few years of piano playing I wanted to become a famous composer like Mozart and Beethoven. So I started by trying to write a symphony. But I was like "Where should I start? What instrument/instruments should I use first? What key signature? What time signature? etc." I had so many questions popping up in my head that I just couldn't do it. If you want to be like Mozart and Beethoven then you're very ambitious. That's a very high standard to hold yourself up to so it'll be easy to become disappointed in yourself. Beethoven worked hard to become a great composer, not to mention he was deaf yet he didn't let that stop him so who knows what'll happen if you don't try. Personally, I would recommend just trying to be the best you can be and create music you'll enjoy. Anyway, it is probably best to start making small pieces first and see how that turns out before creating the more complex compositions. However, if you want to write symphonies then go for it and see what happens, keep practicing or take music theory courses, buy a new composition book when you can, learn to hone in your abilities, and what you need to make them. Wanting to start big but ended up with very few compositions - bob_32_116 - 28-08-2016 Schubert had an "Unfinished Symphony", so you're in famous company. Wanting to start big but ended up with very few compositions - Jerome - 22-11-2016 How do you eat a whole elephant? One bite at a time...................... Wanting to start big but ended up with very few compositions - Jerome - 22-11-2016 caters Wrote:Yeah, that is what I realized when I couldn't do a symphony or a piano concerto and is why I wrote a sonata instead(or at least tried to). I don't know why my composition book was lost though but it has been lost since I tried to finish writing the sonata. So I have an unfinished sonata somewhere but I have never been able to find it. And while theoretically I could turn notebook paper into musical paper or use plain paper and draw the staves myself, that is much harder than using a composition book, especially the plain paper method where you draw the staves yourself. I mean, I might understand "Okay, despite the wobble, this is Bb in the 2nd octave." or whatever it is but somebody else might mistake that note for a G or a D or some other note. Everything but the staves I can get to look right. If I try to draw a staff, I get wobbling lines and sometimes even crossing lines. You're making excuses for yourself. If the music was any good you would have remembered it - you would not need a book. In your posts you are talking about notebooks and staves and keys and all the other technical aspects - but you do not mention WHY you are writing the piece other than to say - I want to be famous. Music has to be inspired by something - a concept, an idea, a subject, a woman, a man, an experience, a newspaper article, a place you have visited. You have to have the idea in your head BEFORE you start composing - there has to be a journey in order to get to the final destination and you don't seem to know where the start of the path is. Saying that you don't know how many pieces you would have written if you did not lose the book is a cop-out. Finish one piece first - then ask yourself how many works do I have left in me. |