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Politics - LMD - 03-04-2015
jazzboCR Wrote:Paul Krugman has won the Nobel Prize in Economic Sciences, so what he writes (even opinion pieces) are solidly fact/statistics based and should have attention paid. In this he discusses 3 allied issues--O.D.S, Reaganolatry, and the confidence con. He writes in a conversational not academic style here: http://www.nytimes.com/2015/03/27/opinion/paul-krugman-mornings-in-blue-america.html
You can argue with the opinion; you can't argue with the facts (and, no, he doesn't do selective fact-picking--we leave that to the other side.).
A couple years back I saw a video from, I think the early-mid 90's, where Bill O'Reilly was trying to explain basic economic principles to Krugman on some talk show. It was honestly one of the most amusing things I saw related to economics. I don't want to re-watch it and ruin my memory of it, but from what I remember, Bill was explaining basic terms and ideas and Krugman was just sitting there silently with the smuggest look on his face. It was highly entertaining.
Politics - jazzboCR - 03-04-2015
LMD Wrote:A couple years back I saw a video from, I think the early-mid 90's, where Bill O'Reilly was trying to explain basic economic principles to Krugman on some talk show. It was honestly one of the most amusing things I saw related to economics. I don't want to re-watch it and ruin my memory of it, but from what I remember, Bill was explaining basic terms and ideas and Krugman was just sitting there silently with the smuggest look on his face. It was highly entertaining.
You had me on the floor, hysterically laughing with this. So you think a Nobel Prize winner was looking smug? It was all he could do to not break out in my type laughter or spit on the floor and walk out. Bill O'Reilly, huh? Wasn't he a pill head or something? Sheer unwarranted arrogance and a shout-you-down A'hole at that. Here's the interview--judge for yourself, BTW, it was 11 years ago--the Tighty Whitey Righties just can't let things go--remember when your wife reminds you of hurt words from a decade ago? Same deal and just about the same amount of truth.
https://video.search.yahoo.com/video/play;_ylt=AwrTccihAx5VLaMA2CoPxQt.;_ylu=X3oDMTBsOXB2YTRjBHNlYwNzYwRjb2xvA2dxMQR2dGlkAw--?p=bill+o%27reilly--Paul+Krugman+interview&tnr=21&vid=2AE2906296561154603D2AE2906296561154603D&l=491&turl=http%3A%2F%2Fts1.mm.bing.net%2Fth%3Fid%3DUN.608046547905416572%26pid%3D15.1&sigi=11r51mdon&rurl=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DMUOFTPbxuWA&sigr=11bbkqbk1&tt=b&tit=Clip+of+Tim+Russert+-+Paul+Krugman+vs+O%26%2339%3Breilly&sigt=11i05o4nu&back=https%3A%2F%2Fsearch.yahoo.com%2Fyhs%2Fsearch%3Fp%3Dbill%2Bo%2527reilly--Paul%2BKrugman%2Binterview%26type%3Dch.41.w7.nt.04-01.us.avg._.1214av%26param1%3DrZPbbpwwEIZfpTf4zshHbC642BNV1aqK0k1zGRlsdqkWlprDNm_fMWjbbRRVVRUJ4bH5xp75f1PWNotUoVZpvlmnCu80p1js8hyvyIZhJTY80ducpEkeKYvKpoMEyqgwE4JAUM0E51ISQpDts9XX9-hk2kPmWtQASWRR0VQJoR0RynJTUGupVIoSmSitMDXcpc5RnqhUV4XU2pqKJjwpXAWphKS2ciqxKJx7GUbU-azyaMpETGMSC0rRZvTetcOdObiH-0_ZcRi6iJuIVfA0z70zvjzGZjrE5bmBpQ64Hsbrh777EfFqbizidmktYsl3mBT16RSx4hwxyZR3MHvG-M6MYfGjHw-NaSGq28H5qXYXyOoNnG3bAcIgA8QOkKSZ934zMWDHct4RClPrf_IOwC2kTZD0SzmY2x4WwLQQQsQIFZgyTAn0RTlk8RVL54FKYDoPUOVDo23gj93S85MpQ98kFDaUc2FFwOciwbVABTHQF1DK-Q_bbL9meP95jx_zHdHo3lUOTPRX__q_GTiYAgy7UdpPQ3DuxYH_qdDbW3Wj8Uv5b-_Ib22vToRrl1O2DCQM5BVPxoDzGVreQMkZZgssyQKzIMof1xzVXSZJTLWOmZAxg3_43GePdWvPl_6dQkW2Ofpz41AB_xtUjUqX7f3o0Ld-CX4C0%26param2%3Dnew_tab_search%26param3%3Dch.41.w7.nt.04-01.us.avg._.1214av%26hsimp%3Dyhs-fh_lsonsw%26hspart%3Davg%26ei%3DUTF-8&sigb=1s4sbjnl2&hspart=avg&hsimp=yhs-fh_lsonsw
"Outfoxed" was mentioned--it was a then-current documentary on how Fox grossly misshapes the news with a Conservative-only bias. Quite amusing and if anything, the problem has only gotten worse. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Outfoxed
Politics - jazzboCR - 03-04-2015
Lovely Linda Wrote:Are they kidding. Can we really trust Iran.
And equally importantly--can Iran trust us? It takes 2 to tango and they didn't interfere with our national politics the way we did in theirs (see a Wiki for details). Kicking the can down the road is a good thing--no nukes are being used militarily. Tell you the truth, I trust Iran with nukes way more than I trust Pakistan. And we are actually Iran's allies in some Middle East matters--most confusing.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QOM1NS-Dj20 << Paintings by a magnificent Scottish realist artist, Hamish Blakely
Politics - CRAZY-HORSE - 03-04-2015
quite right Jazzbo....
the world cant trust American Govt's or their policies as they dont do anything internationally unless theres something "in it" for them,
but on the other hand,
most of the world cannot live without US military support on their side as a back-up and support.
Iran are decades away from manufacturing military grade Uranium...
i wonder if the US would be so opposed to what they were doing if they were buying the Uranium off them, i doubt it.
and i doubt they would be opposed to if Iran were a member of the so called "allied forces"...!
the US aligns itself with whoever has the most to offer them...
look at the Iran/Iraq war...one month the US supported the Iranians, the next,the Iraqi's and so on...
supporting the Taliban against the Soviets, then supporting the Afghan Govt against the Taliban...
telling Saddam "we have no middle east agenda, we are not opposed to you invading Kuwait,we have no interests there"...
what happened next?....
the US jumps in and sends the Iraqi army packing...
it all sounds very "1984-ish" to me.....
remember this from George Orwell's novel..."we are at war with Oceania" then in the next chapter "we are friends with Oceania" and the multitudes believed it!,
well, everyone except Winston...
and we all know what happened to him!
sounds remarkably similar to what is happening to Julian Assange doesnt it????
Politics - jazzboCR - 03-04-2015
The word in play is "Realpolitik"; http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Realpolitik#Examples_of_U.S._Realpolitik The friend of a friend is a friend...today, in this circumstance. Ethical behavior is sold to the voting populace; Realpolitik is what's practiced. Hard to expect otherwise. I'm not espousing cynicism, just wariness and awareness.
Politics - Lovely Linda - 03-04-2015
jazzboCR Wrote:And equally importantly--can Iran trust us? It takes 2 to tango and they didn't interfere with our national politics the way we did in theirs (see a Wiki for details). Kicking the can down the road is a good thing--no nukes are being used militarily. Tell you the truth, I trust Iran with nukes way more than I trust Pakistan. And we are actually Iran's allies in some Middle East matters--most confusing.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QOM1NS-Dj20 << Paintings by a magnificent Scottish realist artist, Hamish Blakely
I don't know. I don't believe we have threatened to nuke Iran the way they have threatened to destroy us and Israel.
I know Obama would Never nuke Iran but I can't speak for Israel and I would not blame them one bit if they did.
With one missile from Iran to Israel, nuke them Bibi!!
Politics - Lovely Linda - 03-04-2015
Btw, any country that threatens to destroy us is certainly not a friend of the United States.
I do blame the United States for putting homegrown Terrorists in office in Washington.
I'm not so sure either Iran is decades away from a nuke. I think it is just around the corner.
I hope the next Pres. wakes up before it is too late.
We do need to stop pussy footing around with the terrorist countries and concentrate on protecting America.
We could start first by closing off the borders where not only Mexicans are crossing but also Terrorists.
Politics - jazzboCR - 03-04-2015
It was home-grown terrorists that started this country or at least a large component of them did. They have never been disavowed and actually exported terrorism to Canada.: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ethan_Allen There was a great deal of terrorism practiced by both sides in the Civil War and as much against Native Americans. We also practiced terrorism against Mexico, and the Philippines and Cuba in our campaigns against them.: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mexican%E2%80%93American_War and http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spanish%E2%80%93American_War The Spanish-American Wars were especially egregious because we refused to grant either the Philippines or Cuba the independence we ostensibly went to war for. Both were admittedly primarily military engagements but a goodly amount of terror was practiced both places. About our loathsome treatment of Native American tribes: the less said, the better lest my gorge rise. "Those who live in glass houses..." And I still say Yo'Boy Bibi (if you are that familiar with a world leader as to use his first name without an honorific, that's what he is) is daily creating home-grown terrorists with his forced resettlement policies. And BTW name all the terrorists who have been caught coming up through Mexico--those I know of come through Europe and Canada. The US-Mexican border is not nearly as porous as the Rabid Right Ravers would have you believe. Tightening the border further would have even more desperate Central American would-be immigrants dying in the desert--that your version of "Christian charity"? Because the tightest border imaginable isn't going to stop them trying or the "coyotes" from taking their money then murdering them...
Politics - Lovely Linda - 04-04-2015
[video=youtube;k8NgVOCDYKM]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k8NgVOCDYKM[/video]
Politics - Lovely Linda - 04-04-2015
Only response I have to the video is if America is going to survive and our children are going
to have a future is for us not to take our support away from Israel!!