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Politics - jazzboCR - 26-03-2015

Lovely Linda Wrote:Getting back to Bibi. He has been trying to warn the United States for years about Iran and their nuclear activity to no avail.
Seems Obama doesn't care.

This is bilge-water. Yo' Boy Bibi wants the interventionist wing of the US Govt. to carry his water. It was the US that introduced the Stuxnet virus into the Iranian nuke peocesse's OS and the US that got a bunch of Iran's aluminum centrifuge tubing replaced with inferior guaranteed to blow up and it was the US on the sly doing stuff we may never find out about but which cripples Iran's military uses of nukes; meanwhile back at the ranch, yo' boy Bibi is making more terrorists every day by building those unnecessary, openly provocative West Bank settlements just to mess with and displace Palestinians. Spit in both our faces and then say, "Let's you and him fight." That about right?


Politics - jazzboCR - 26-03-2015

Lovely Linda Wrote:Oh, and with Ted Cruz being a Senator and his wife a lawyer? I'm sure they don't need ObamaCare.
None of the Senators seem to want ObamaCare. Ask yourself why Steve :confused:
Even Pelosi who pushed it said NO for herself. Strange or do they know something we don't?

Why should they sign up for something they don't need? Have you seen the lifetime medical plan for Senators/ ex-Senators? It's awe-inspiring. But I don't need O'care either--I made the choice to make good money and have great benefits and a grand retirement...the same choice was available to every US citizen or green-card holder here. Envy springs from one's refusal to recognize inadequate decision-making and poor life choices. And, no, I don't think anyone here is guilty of it.


Politics - Lovely Linda - 26-03-2015

jazzboCR Wrote:This is bilge-water. Yo' Boy Bibi wants the interventionist wing of the US Govt. to carry his water. It was the US that introduced the Stuxnet virus into the Iranian nuke peocesse's OS and the US that got a bunch of Iran's aluminum centrifuge tubing replaced with inferior guaranteed to blow up and it was the US on the sly doing stuff we may never find out about but which cripples Iran's military uses of nukes; meanwhile back at the ranch, yo' boy Bibi is making more terrorists every day by building those unnecessary, openly provocative West Bank settlements just to mess with and displace Palestinians. Spit in both our faces and then say, "Let's you and him fight." That about right?
All I know is what I heard Mr. Benjamin N. say and he seems sincere at what I think is true. That is Iran wants America and Israel destroyed.
As far as the Palestinians, they have brought all their misery on themselves by the violence that they have shown towards Israel.
This fight has been going on since Ishmael. Let's not forget Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob.
ObamaCare was shoved down the throats of the American people by the likes of Obama, Pelosi, and Harry Reid.
If it is so great why are the ones who passed it not jumping on the bandwagon and taking part in using ObamaCare.
I know why!! Why don't they admit the reason to the American people. I know why they won't!!


Politics - jazzboCR - 26-03-2015

Lovely Linda Wrote:All I know is what I heard Mr. Benjamin N. say and he seems sincere at what I think is true. That is Iran wants America and Israel destroyed.
As far as the Palestinians, they have brought all their misery on themselves by the violence that they have shown towards Israel.
This fight has been going on since Ishmael. Let's not forget Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob.
ObamaCare was shoved down the throats of the American people by the likes of Obama, Pelosi, and Harry Reid.
If it is so great why are the ones who passed it not jumping on the bandwagon and taking part in using ObamaCare.
I know why!! Why don't they admit the reason to the American people. I know why they won't!!

One more time for those who refuse to get it: Why is inexpensive reasonably comprehensive healthcare (which every one needs at one time or another) a bad thing? Do I want to support those who had to go to the ER at 5X-10X the cost of continuing health monitoring? O'care is induced to be hated by those who benefit the most. Shoved down the throats? Are these truly your own thoughts about a 1/2 weak program when the rest of the world has had it so much better so much longer? And especially with the hollowing-out of the American Dream and thus the loss of even healthcare/benefits slavery? Why aren't you angry about the growing income inequality in the US which makes your life even harder than it normally would be?
About yo' boy Bibi: Israel has shown an equal amount of violence toward the Palestinians, and I repeat--he makes more terrorists every day with his resettlement policy. Jews have been subject to horrific violence, even extermination campaigns throughout history (the Crusades, the Holocaust, Stalin's actions). That does not mean they are immune to the same feelings/revulsion towards others. Funny thing--take these right wingers/devout Christians back 100 or even 70 years and they were determined to not let a Jewish state be established and in WWII, not let escaping Jews enter the US. Did they change or did we...or did the whole world do a paradigm shift?
Abraham/Ibrahim is a major player in all 3 major Middle Eastern religions--no one has a special claim to him.: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abraham_in_Islam
As far as the Biblical names and references go--feel free to believe in your myths and fantasies but what's the relevance today? And why are you foisting it off on the rest of us?
Again: those who voted on it don't need it and are no more subject to it's penalties than I am. They were looking for the betterment of the unfortunates and the downtrodden, and an over-all cost savings to those of us that actually pay taxes. Show me I'm wrong. Have a nice day.


Politics - jazzboCR - 26-03-2015

Lovely Linda Wrote:All I know is what I heard Mr. Benjamin N. say and he seems sincere at what I think is true.

Yo' Boy Bibi is a politician--of course what he says seems true...prima facie. And plays into your strongly-held beliefs. A little digging into what a politician says yields deeper truths and concealed motives. If all you know comes from a single source with no back-up or analysis...I have a Nigerian oil well that only you are allowed to invest in...or is that a Nevada gold mine? Reminder: both most Israelis and Palestinians are Semites--and neither one is your religion. Sure you want to take sides in a brotherly battle?


Politics - Lovely Linda - 26-03-2015

Please, we could go back and forth forever but you are not going to change my mind and unfortunately I'm not going to change yours jazz (at least that's the way it seems) but please stop being rude by calling Bibi "Yo Boy". I would not do that to you.
I don't know what type of Christians you are talking about but we have always supported Israel as a State!! It is Prophecy!!
One last thing about ObamaCare, I have had one of the most well known Insurance companies sitting right in my kitchen
and I saw it right on their computer. I can not afford the out of pocket payments of ObamaCare!!
And I'm not about to have some RFID Chip put in my right hand or forehead.


BTW, wonder why other countries come to the U.S. to have medical care. Answer: because they have government controlled health care
and can not wait 6 mths. for a operation.
If you (jazz) have something to say to me without being rude I will answer you but don't talk to me if you are telling me about a oil well
I might be interested in (which I'm not). That is also rude!!
I don't want to lose this thread because it is important and interesting so I'm not going to argue with you.

Another thing (I'm interested) if you are a Atheist how can you say what us Christians want for Israel.
I have not criticized you as a Atheist (if you are) which that I don't believe either because even the devils believe and tremble.
I don't get why Atheists are so afraid of Christians (actually I do get that!). We are a threat to their beliefs.
Anyway, you are a challenge and I like a good challenge!!
See how much better it is to respect someone even though we disagree :laugh:
And Steve, you started this. Where are you :laugh:


Politics - Lovely Linda - 26-03-2015

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Politics - Music Head - 26-03-2015

lol
yea SteveO
always stirring up trouble
one thing I think you asked
the Affordable Care Act does not cut out insurance companies
they love all the new business
and some people don't like paying for things for other people
when you don't know if they are truly poor or just lazy bums who want a government handout
I do not like the term Obamacare and I will not jump aboard that train
affordable care act is stupid too but that is what it was named
it depends on your station in life whether it's affordable or not

and I love Bibi


Politics - Lovely Linda - 26-03-2015

Music Head Wrote:lol
yea SteveO
always stirring up trouble
one thing I think you asked
the Affordable Care Act does not cut out insurance companies
they love all the new business
and some people don't like paying for things for other people
when you don't know if they are truly poor or just lazy bums who want a government handout
I do not like the term Obamacare and I will not jump aboard that train
affordable care act is stupid too but that is what it was named
it depends on your station in life whether it's affordable or not

and I love Bibi
:laugh: You are funny ED!! Obama calls it ObamaCare but just for you ED I will say the new health care system. That better? Confusedmile:
I have to also correct something Perry Stone said. He may have misspoke but the Bible does not say he might deceive the very Elect.
It says if it were possible, they shall deceive the very Elect. Speaking of the possibility of false prophets and false Christs deceiving the Elect.
But, they won't deceive them.


Politics - Lovely Linda - 26-03-2015

[video=youtube;jng9zZw54GI]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jng9zZw54GI[/video]..Well, Ted Cruz just lost the Election.
BTW, anyone notice Obama might be seeking a third term. Clinton tried and failed.
I think Obama might just make it happen. He has a way of hyptnotizing people.