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Politics - Lovely Linda - 08-08-2014 [video=youtube;b2op4xWUSKc]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b2op4xWUSKc[/video] Politics - jazzboCR - 26-08-2014 2 similar scenarios, 2 vastly different outcomes: a country re-takes turf that was historically theirs. In one the US stands passively by, in the other the US goes to war 20+ years ago that still hasn't ended. Russia re-takes The Crimea, Iraq re-takes Kuwait. Discuss. Politics - Music Head - 26-08-2014 I'm afraid Politics - Lovely Linda - 27-08-2014 Music Head Wrote:I'm afraidYou should be MH!! We are living in the days He speaks about. Wars and rumors of wars. This Ebola thing scares me!! I am more afraid of that than I am being nuked. If we are nuked, it will happen so fast we won't know what hit us. Ebola is something else. A terrible death!! Politics - Lovely Linda - 30-08-2014 So, Putin has said to the World "Don't mess with us" and basically threatened a nuclear war! Any thoughts about this?? Also what about airstrikes against Isis in Syria. Should we or should we not go into Syria?? Politics - jazzboCR - 30-08-2014 rebelgirl Wrote:This Ebola thing scares me! Ebola is something else. A terrible death!! Yes, it's a terrible death but entirely preventable. Also it is thus far confined to African countries that have terrible public health environments. A much greater health crisis for Western countries, especially the US, is that condition fostered by everybody who's growing and merchandising "food"--obesity. Sounds like a joke until you you read the dollar cost and human cost of this epidemic.: http://eyesonthedollar.com/obesity/ and http://abcnews.go.com/Health/Healthday/story?id=8184975&page=1 and http://www.foodpolitics.com/2012/08/how-much-does-obesity-cost-american-society/ << this is a real, growing but insidious problem. I live in an area where it's in my face everyday--poor fat folks. I say nothing to them and don't blame them--they were merchandised to, effectively. And 43% of US food grown and served goes to waste. Let's clear some more Indonesian rainforests so we can waste even more...Palm oil uber alles...<< from that Classical composer, Joseph Haydn's piece: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s2IaFaJrmno << for which, read "food corp. Nazis" who have an active interest in keeping you from knowing exactly what it is you are eating: http://www.buzzfeed.com/rachelysanders/big-food-spending-millions-to-prevent-gmo-labeling#2v7yz3x Politics - jazzboCR - 30-08-2014 rebelgirl Wrote:So, Putin has said to the World "Don't mess with us" and basically threatened a nuclear war! Any thoughts about this?? Also what about airstrikes against Isis in Syria. Should we or should we not go into Syria?? About going into or even getting actively involved with that Syrian mess: Haven't we (and the French and the British and the Russians) learned our lesson about getting involved in Middle-Eastern/Near Asian internal squabbles? We're going to solve problems going back 1000 years with a grip'n'grin, mission accomplished, see-you-later policy? How about an iron-ring for now, we''ll -do-biz-with-the-victors-when-it-all-settles-down later policy? Seems to be working with the US vs. Cuba thingie. No, I'm not an isolationist; I'm a realist. Enter a situation when you truly have impact to make a difference. Thus the US in VietNam was a mistake from the start. About that Russian exceptionalist Putin: the much greater problem is China and it's quiet takeover of a lot of the world's mineral wealth, expansionist policies vis a vis the oceans surrounding, and poisoning the world's atmosphere--Putin's only 1 man; theirs is an ongoing system not dependent on individual personalities. Much the greater long-term danger. The Chinese have gone from being Communist to being quasi-Nazi in one generation--quite an accomplishment. The US has gone from being constrained-capitalist-democratic to being Nazi-flip in about the same period of time--quite a steal. Politics - Music Head - 30-08-2014 9/11 changed everything for me I only need to be woke up once I'm for cleaning the planet of religious extremist wackos go after them wherever they are by any means necessary crush them no I'm not an atheist we all know what religious extremist wackos means Politics - CRAZY-HORSE - 30-08-2014 i agree MH.... the US, UK and Australia should load up their planes with bombs and bomb the crap out of the mid-east... they should give the mid-east Govts an ultimatum...are you with us or against us...their answer will decide whether they live or perish. i say nuke them...the whole mid-east...level it totally, no excuses,no tolerance,no exceptions!!!!! now, im not one who supports war(or acts of war) as too many innocent lives are lost on all sides, but if theyre not exterminated now the 'west' will face indiscriminate acts of terror forever and a day. there will be another 9/11 at some point,somewhere,sometime in the future... like the IRA used to say in the 1970s-80s..."we've only got to get through once to achieve our goals,the British have to get it right all the time,everytime to stop us" also, food for thought... there are one billion Muslims on Earth, if only(and i say,"if only") 1% of those are extremists, that leaves 10 million possible terrorists willing to sacrifice themselves and the lives of thousands of others to achieve some stupid goal of "eternal life of pleasure with x-amount of virgins"....what a load of old crap! and im not just saying Musims, or singling them out(but they are topical right now).... the US used to have their own religious fanatics....remember the KKK, who also killed in "the name of God" thats my two minute rant on my soapbox, i now step down off it and retreat to my room to await 'anti-CH' responses! Politics - jazzboCR - 30-08-2014 Music Head Wrote:I'm for cleaning the planet of religious extremist wackos Well sort of...and they are closer than you think. Those who bomb US abortion clinics in the name of some god or other, for example. And, oh yes, about the newly-resurgent KKK--they and other Aryan nationalist groups never really go away and usually pop up like 'shrooms on a Spring lawn when folks get frightened and confused by forces they don't understand.: http://www.nytimes.com/2014/08/30/nyregion/at-gateway-to-hamptons-ku-klux-klan-advertises-for-new-members.html To quote Pogo: https://www.google.com/search?q=%22I+have+met+the+enemy+and+he+is+us%22&es_sm=93&tbm=isch&imgil=QtMNEFOBwNfdlM%253A%253BNEkzXuH1GKf_RM%253Bhttp%25253A%25252F%25252Fmihockeykid.com%25252F2014%25252F07%25252F17%25252Fwhen-your-investment-doesnt-pay-off%25252F&source=iu&fir=QtMNEFOBwNfdlM%253A%252CNEkzXuH1GKf_RM%252C_&usg=__BdDk0sdLmlru2q8hSO97f3EOpmg%3D&sa=X&ei=z8gBVK7hFoaBygTP34HIAw&ved=0CEIQ9QEwBg&biw=1280&bih=675#facrc=_&imgdii=_&imgrc=QtMNEFOBwNfdlM%253A%3BNEkzXuH1GKf_RM%3Bhttps%253A%252F%252Fmihockeykid.files.wordpress.com%252F2014%252F07%252Fpogo.jpg%3Bhttp%253A%252F%252Fmihockeykid.com%252F2014%252F07%252F17%252Fwhen-your-investment-doesnt-pay-off%252F%3B279%3B425 Complex questions demand complex answers that don't pay off overnight; I don't think carpet-bombing the innocents is the answer. Remember these are for the most part asymmetric guerrilla groups we are talking about, not some massed, easy-to-see army. |