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Politics - Music Head - 07-02-2017

Oceansoul Wrote:I looked up the bills that are being hotly debated in Congress right now. There are certain ones that are concerning to me. Sigh, I hope they don't pass.
pick one and we'll cooly debate it


Politics - Oceansoul - 07-02-2017

Music Head Wrote:pick one and we'll cooly debate it
Certain ones I'm watching is about terminating the EPA and defunding a health service provider I go through for checkups and such are a couple of the few bills I'm concerned about passing.


Politics - Music Head - 07-02-2017

Oceansoul Wrote:Certain ones about terminating the EPA and defunding of a health service provider that I go through to get checkups and such are a couple of the few bills I'm concerned about passing.
those ain't no fun
tell you what
I'll have a talk with Paul and Mitch
rest assured the EPA is not going away

as for the health thing
probably 1 of 100 different government funding mechanisms for health care
your provider will find another way or you will be inconvenienced to find another one


Politics - Oceansoul - 07-02-2017

Music Head Wrote:those ain't no fun
tell you what
I'll have a talk with Paul and Mitch
rest assured the EPA is not going away
I'm not as certain as you about that. It might not pass, but it's still possible.
Quote:as for the health thing
probably 1 of 100 different government funding mechanisms for health care
your provider will find another way or you will be inconvenienced to find another one
Yeah, I really don't want to lose my health services provider which I've been using for a few years now and helps me. I don't have health insurance, but this is free for me. And there are other low income people, especially women who use it. WiC is one of the resources that is available through the provider.


Politics - Oceansoul - 07-02-2017

Btw, there is a bill that has been introduced about repealing gun-free zones in schools. Gotta keep those grizzly bears away, eh Betsy DeVos? :tongue:


Politics - Music Head - 07-02-2017

Betsy is up for a vote shortly
no there will not be another republican defector
Pence to break the tie
case closed
no more grizzly's in schools


Politics - Lovely Linda - 08-02-2017

I am a firm believer in Climate Change. So, Trump and me disagree on that.

However, nothing we do or don't do is going to prevent climate change.
It is going to get very hot sooner or later. BOOM :eek:


Politics - Lovely Linda - 08-02-2017

Trump's repeal of the Johnson Amendment is a waste of time.

Most of the churches I have been to, we know how they stand politically.

Republican


Politics - Snowman999 - 08-02-2017

Real News - Fake News and my reality with ACA or Obamacare.

First, I used to watch MSNBC then CNN and when I wanted to hear a lot of bitching FOX.

I voted for Obama because I believed him and in him. Like everyone else I wanted affordable health insurance. My wife has been lucky, she's been with the same company since the late 80s and had nice insurance.

Then came the disaster of a roll out. But, when it comes to government, what does come easy? (Could you imagine what MSNBC or CNN would do if Trump had a bad roll-out? Oh wait... yeah I have seen it) So, I finally get to enroll in Obamacare. Oh wait, I'm not eligible. What? I don't make any money, and while we're common law married, we file separate taxes. So, this poor guy is not eligible for affordable care. I e-mailed the White House (you can do that), and I got back a long form letter saying "not everyone is entitled. But, I could purchase health insurance from my state" BIG ******* DEAL, I could have done that before Obama care. ANYONE can do that. But, like most poor people I CAN'T AFFORD it. So, I'm uninsured. But, the ass-******* doesn't stop there, I used to get roughly $1000 - $1500 back from the IRS. I now get nothing, because I can't afford insurance and have to pay the penalty. Yeah that's fair. I remember Obama saying there'd be coverage for ALL. I guess I'm not part of all.

As I said my wife had the same insurance since the late 80s. The premium would increase about 2% each year. So, by the time Obamacare kicked in she was paying roughly $250 a month. Once Obamacare kicked into full effect, the premium skyrocketed to the point the company had to drop the provider. She now pays close to $400 a month for a fraction of the coverage.

So, anyone who was able to get coverage through the ACA, you should thank me and my wife. Because your leeches feeding off our backs. Chances are good you make more money than me, I'm unemployed.

Besides FOX who pointed out all the problems with the ACA from it's first announcement, every other channel praised it's wonderfulness. They continue to praise this crap. It doesn't matter if 20 million people are able to get affordable healthcare when the middle class have to pay for it. So, which gave the "real" news?

Today over all the channels they talked about the LIE from the White House about the 70 something terrorist attacks that weren't given proper coverage by the media. They all listed France, San Bernadino, and a few other major attacks as proof that he lied. What they omited or "SLURRED by" was that it said MANY of. He didn't say ALL or THESE are, he said MANY. Many of the terrorist attacks weren't given much coverage. That's the truth. That's how the media lies. Remove or slur the most important word and you change the meaning. I'm curious, does this bother any of you?

Obama put a temporary ban on people coming from Iraq to the US. How many lawsuits, protests happened? How many people called it unconstitutional? Trump's list of countries came from Obama and the Senate's 2015 - 16 list of countries with serious radical Islam issues. Yet, Protesters and Democrats are claiming this is a Muslim ban. They point to Trump's statement "I Donald J Trump want to ban all Muslims from coming into the country" as proof. The lie to this is, he's not banning ALL Muslims. The majority of Muslim nations aren't on his ban. Of course these liars also conveniently forget the last part of his campaign statement which is "Until we can figure out what the hell we're doing". Because our vetting process has been deemed a disaster from all parties involved including the CIA and FBI. I've seen so many on-line liberals who point to the fact the process can take years. These people know better than the actual vetters who say the system sucks.

Now I watch FOX first. They were 100% spot on with their coverage of the ACA. It was all negative and all true. There was only one good thing in the ACA "You can't be refused or dropped because of preexisting conditions".

But, if you ever want to point out the ultimate hypocrisy of the Democrats just go back to the last debate where the major headline was "Donald Trump will not accept the outcome of the election" HOW DARE HE! Now listen to these whiny bitches. The hysteria is so entertaining.

You'd think I'm a die hard conservative. But, until 2014 I never even considered voting for any one other than a Democrat.


Politics - Music Head - 08-02-2017

nice rant snowman

don't understand why you are not eligible for the ACA
I thought anybody was
shows how much I know about it
VA coverage for me
funny that you refer to the leeches taking advantage of it, yet you wanted to be one

but it is fun to watch the left react when they no longer hold power
entertainment for me