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Politics - Lovely Linda - 28-10-2016
First, Hillary is a compulsive liar. Everyone knows that. Ask the families of the victims who died in Benghazi.
We all know she lied about the dreaded Emails and also about the sniper attack.
She can't tell me she did not know Bill was cheating on her. He has been cheating on her since day one probably.
He was in the Oval Office having sex with that woman while the American taxpayers were paying for him to govern the country.
Bill will be running the country as much if not more than Hillary if she is elected.
At least Trump was not in the WH when he did his misdeeds. How many men don't if given the chance. Too many.
I've run into too many.
I am not making excuses for any of them but Hillary will wreck this country. As I have said before I don't like either but we Trump supporters are voting for a difference.
Hillary is some of the same and worse. We had them for eight years and we lost jobs and taxes went up.
Politics - Lovely Linda - 28-10-2016
I know Trump will not do everything he says but I do know what Hillary will do.
I've lived through many Presidents so I do have experience.
Politics - Oceansoul - 28-10-2016
Believe what you want to believe and the lies he tells you. I don't care, but don't preach him to me. Also, I hold no illusions about Hillary nor of Trump, it's about choosing our own poison. And I've looked up Benghazi and there is contradictory information on it, so I tend to be cautious before believing a person's claims about it on the internet.
If Trump is elected then you can probably kiss our nation's stability goodbye.
Politics - Lovely Linda - 28-10-2016
I'm going back to the spookies awhile before I have to take some time off in Nov.
I'm not trying to change any minds. Lord knows I can't do that. I'm also not angry with anyone for voting Hillary.
I understand why some like Hillary believe it or not.
Again, I don't like either but they are our only choices.
Politics - CRAZY-HORSE - 28-10-2016
the old "a vote for Hillary is a vote or Bill" is so immature IMO, I hear it a lot on the TV...
Bill will not have access to meetings or the decision making process and he probably wont be allowed in certain areas of the WH
because he is not The President...
by saying a vote for Hillary etc.... does that mean any vote at any point in history (or future) for a Kennedy will indirectly be a vote for the policies of JFK???
im sorry, but with his womanizing, Trump is no better than Bill Clinton...
LOL....Newt is really 'the pot calling the kettle black' isn't he.
Trump is not fit to lead any country, in act I don't think he is fit and proper to run a business empire as theres a lot of potentially
crooked and corrupt things that have happened under his watch like:
not paying architects, builders, tradesmen, developers, underpaying employees, threatening illegal employees with deportation if they don't work for
the pittance he gives them (which im sure, employing illegals is probably illegal in its own right)...
from what ive read, he is as crooked an businessman as ive ever heard about, which would mean...would he be open to bribes as President??
im not saying no other politician has ever been open to and accepted bribes but there is nothing in his resume that now says to me that
he is a fit and proper person to have the job
and above all that, like Ocean said....to think he has the right to touch a woman in anyway he chooses, when he wants to, is the lowest form
any man can do (apart from rape, commit incest or being a paedophile IMO)....its not on....theres an old saying "no means no!", he doesn't know the meaning of the
word when it comes to women, and neither does Bill Clinton for that matter!
end of rant!
Politics - CRAZY-HORSE - 28-10-2016
BTW,
if you read/see the international news from around the world you will find that not one "western" leader endorses or has anything good to say
about Trump,
the world does not want him...
he will singlehandedly destroy the close ties you have with your allies...
and be rest assured countries like Australia, New Zealand, UK, France, Germany etc will think twice before sending troops to any situation
that Trump finds himself in, they will not back him like they have done Bush, "W", Obama and possibly (more than likely) Hillary.
American voters need to listen to what the world is saying because as Billy Bragg once sung "the fate of the great United States, decides the fate of us all".
Politics - Lovely Linda - 28-10-2016
When You stop attacking me by calling me immature I will finish reading your post CH! You are so rude!!
If you don't think Bill will be running the WH, you are just naive! He wanted a 3rd term and he got it. Nuff said.
[video=youtube;gWdTnJqOgUo]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V-gWdTnJqOgUo[/video]
Politics - Lovely Linda - 28-10-2016
Oceansoul Wrote:Believe what you want to believe and the lies he tells you. I don't care, but don't preach him to me. Also, I hold no illusions about Hillary nor of Trump, it's about choosing our own poison. And I've looked up Benghazi and there is contradictory information on it, so I tend to be cautious before believing a person's claims about it on the internet.I'm not preaching anything to you.
If Trump is elected then you can probably kiss our nation's stability goodbye.
Politics - Oceansoul - 28-10-2016
I don't disagree, it isn't a great situation to choose between candidates who might hurt the country in their own ways. And the third party options aren't great choices to me either and I have read about their positions and watched some interviews of theirs as well. But it's either I vote for Hillary or none, I'm not voting for Trump because of his plans and I don't agree with his goals. His message doesn't resonate with me. The likelihood that I won't vote isn't high as I already have my voter ID and my voting place is barely a couple of blocks away from me.
Hillary is a bit moderate for my tastes, but she has experience, she is strong, has a backbone to get a job done, and I agree with some of her plans. So, that's why. And yeah, she isn't an honest person yet I don't see either of them as being honest. How people decide to vote is ultimately up to them, at the end of the day.
Politics - Oceansoul - 28-10-2016
CRAZY-HORSE Wrote:the old "a vote for Hillary is a vote or Bill" is so immature IMO, I hear it a lot on the TV...
Bill will not have access to meetings or the decision making process and he probably wont be allowed in certain areas of the WH
because he is not The President...
by saying a vote for Hillary etc.... does that mean any vote at any point in history (or future) for a Kennedy will indirectly be a vote for the policies of JFK???
im sorry, but with his womanizing, Trump is no better than Bill Clinton...
LOL....Newt is really 'the pot calling the kettle black' isn't he.
Trump is not fit to lead any country, in act I don't think he is fit and proper to run a business empire as theres a lot of potentially
crooked and corrupt things that have happened under his watch like:
not paying architects, builders, tradesmen, developers, underpaying employees, threatening illegal employees with deportation if they don't work for
the pittance he gives them (which im sure, employing illegals is probably illegal in its own right)...
from what ive read, he is as crooked an businessman as ive ever heard about, which would mean...would he be open to bribes as President??
im not saying no other politician has ever been open to and accepted bribes but there is nothing in his resume that now says to me that
he is a fit and proper person to have the job
and above all that, like Ocean said....to think he has the right to touch a woman in anyway he chooses, when he wants to, is the lowest form
any man can do (apart from rape, commit incest or being a paedophile IMO)....its not on....theres an old saying "no means no!", he doesn't know the meaning of the
word when it comes to women, and neither does Bill Clinton for that matter!
end of rant!
Yeah, I don't see how Trump is much better. I'm not a fan of Bill Clinton, but I wouldn't be voting for him in the first place haha. What he does is his own responsibility to atone for. The First Lady/Man is not on the same level of authority as the Presidential Office nor are they powerful enough to affect policy. I've heard of two First Lady's who had some influence, but those were circumstantial situations. There are limits to what they can do and how much power they wield so yeah I agree with the gist of what you're saying.
Anyway, Trump's business record isn't squeaky clean based on what I've been reading about either and I'm not talking about his tax returns which I could care less about.
And yep, a man does not have the right to touch a woman without her consent, it doesn't matter nor should it matter how powerful and rich they are. A Staff Sergeant my Stepsister once had tried pushing himself on her when she was in the U.S. Army while based in Germany. It is still sexual harassment.