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Politics - Lovely Linda - 04-10-2016
I'm through with Politics. Getting too hot for me.
Sorry if I made anyone angry about Hillary.
However, like I said best to hear both sides. That is politics.
Politics - Oceansoul - 04-10-2016
Lovely Linda Wrote:I'm through with Politics. Getting too hot for me.
Sorry if I made anyone angry about Hillary.
However, like I said best to hear both sides. That is politics.
I'm just saying Trump shouldn't expect to be coddled just because he is use to it and Hillary is always attacked for something. It's a part of politics, you will be questioned and should be if your ideas and views are problematic or potentially harmful. Trump should be no different. That is all I'm saying really. That includes his behavior, Hillary isn't exempt from this either.
On the other hand, some Trump supporters make too many excuses for me to be comfortable. No, I don't like his behavior and he doesn't seem very respectful nor mindful of his actions towards other people which is important in a President. I'm not claiming Hillary is perfect nor that her record is squeaky clean, she doesn't make it easy to trust her.
Politics - Oceansoul - 04-10-2016
I was pretty upset Yesterday, but that's because Trump has been saying hateful things about Miss Universe and trying to start a sex tape controversy. I just don't get that at all, lay off dude and why the need to attack the appearance of some women? Why does he get to decide how a woman should be for his own benefit? I feel for his wife.
Politics - Jerome - 04-10-2016
Hillary is a liar and Trump is a lunatic - pure and simple. Don't vote for either. Is there something in the constitution that says they have to get a certain number of votes in order to gain office? If so, the entire American population should just not vote at all. Then neither of these idiots can get into office. Reboot required. Ctrl-Alt-Del.
Politics - Oceansoul - 04-10-2016
Jerome Wrote:Hillary is a liar and Trump is a lunatic - pure and simple. Don't vote for either. Is there something in the constitution that says they have to get a certain number of votes in order to gain office? If so, the entire American population should just not vote at all. Then neither of these idiots can get into office. Reboot required. Ctrl-Alt-Del.
If people do not vote, then who will be President? I know people who say they will not vote and that's their right as an American citizen, but if people en masse do not vote then who will be in office? Obama can't stay for a third term since the Constitution places limits on how many terms one person can serve and his are up now. I've never heard of stopping such an election, the reason Hillary and Trump got through the preliminary part of the election is because American voters chose them over the other candidates.
The President is chosen when one of the candidates has the majority of the country's votes, also the battleground states each election are very important to win, the electoral colleges count them up. The first one who gets over 50% of the popular vote wins the Presidential Election.
Politics - Jerome - 04-10-2016
Like I said - reboot required. America needs to come up with a different system. The current one is not working and is totally outdated. Why do you even need a President anyway? They don't wield any power, big business runs the country and judging by the sentiment of the majority of the electorate, the population is totally fed up with the idiots that are currently on offer. I think your entire electoral process can do with an overhaul. It's turning into a reality TV series. A gameshow where the winner gets to decide how much more they can screw the electorate for their hard-earned cash. Same as any other nation. Ruby's post of an album called 'FEAR', (F*** Everyone And Run), sums it up perfectly. The world leaders today don't give a s*** about the electorate. It's only about themselves. No real leaders left anymore. The system is well and truly broken and there isn't a repairman in sight.
Politics - Oceansoul - 04-10-2016
To be fair, American voters don't exactly have control over who jumps into an election race. A political office is a civil servant job so whoever believes they are qualified and prepared to govern can run. This election gave certain choices though, it's been slim pickings for the Democrats with only 4 people who jumped into the race and two of them faded into the background. Hillary was the frontrunner from the beginning of the race, heck the Media didn't even pay much if any attention to Bernie Sanders as a serious contender until he started gaining Millennial voters and getting some fire going. Sigh, I'm not happy either when my candidate of choice is out of the race.
The Republicans had a bunch of choices, but they were pretty bad ones, IMO. Ugh. But yeah, both of them were the chosen ones so now voters have these two to choose from.
Politics - Jerome - 04-10-2016
What I would like to see, in the USA and other countries, is an uncomplicated system. Just like the banks have used mathematicians to create complex financial products that the customers do not understand and as a result get screwed, so too the electoral process is overly complicated and there are all these layers in the process that can be manipulated to achieve office. Remember Jeb Bush? Caucuses, primaries and all sorts of other crap. Just get candidates chosen from big business, who have a proven track record of leadership, and then let the American people choose between the candidates. This whole Democrat/Republican carry on is half the reason you don't have any real candidates. Abolishing both parties would be a very good starting point. Oh yes, forget about states as well. You're one country - pure and simple. We have the same crap here in Ireland - politicians are mainly ex-schoolteachers, who by the way, get to keep their old jobs - thus preventing young teachers who actually WANT to teach from getting a permanent job because it is 'reserved' for the politicians in case they want to go back - they never do. They only have to spend 2 years - just two years - in office and they can claim a pension for life even if they never work again. Oh yes, they also get their 'teacher's pension', even though they haven't taught a bloody thing to anyone in years. And the President of Ireland gets to earn more than the President of the USA even though all he does is sit and write bloody poetry instead of going out to work. It's an absolute fiasco. The whole method of electing leaders is totally flawed worldwide. Reboot required. Desperately. I don't have the solution, but I bet someone does. And I bet it's a simple one. The best things always are.
Politics - Oceansoul - 04-10-2016
Jerome Wrote:Like I said - reboot required. America needs to come up with a different system. The current one is not working and is totally outdated. Why do you even need a President anyway? They don't wield any power, big business runs the country and judging by the sentiment of the majority of the electorate, the population is totally fed up with the idiots that are currently on offer. I think your entire electoral process can do with an overhaul. It's turning into a reality TV series. A gameshow where the winner gets to decide how much more they can screw the electorate for their hard-earned cash. Same as any other nation. Ruby's post of an album called 'FEAR', (F*** Everyone And Run), sums it up perfectly. The world leaders today don't give a s*** about the electorate. It's only about themselves. No real leaders left anymore. The system is well and truly broken and there isn't a repairman in sight.
Almost every political system can be or has been corrupted due to certain people who like to exploit it. I don't think our system is perfect, but I would not want my right to vote to be taken away and I want my voice to be heard. I would not give that up. -shrug-
Whenever you have offices that are available to anyone, you might have those of poor character, incompetence, and nefarious intentions who become a leader. Call it a form of political Russian roulette, I suppose. How can one prevent that? That doesn't mean you'll always get poor leaders. What solution is there? Anarchy? No governing at all since power can go to a person's head. I dunno what you would replace our system with, like what?
Edit: Oops, I see your response now. Hmm, gonna have to think about this one.
Politics - Jerome - 04-10-2016
Oceansoul Wrote:Almost every political system can be or has been corrupted due to certain people who like to exploit it. I don't think our system is perfect, but I would not want my right to vote to be taken away as so many women and other activists have fought for so long so that I and other formerly oppressed individuals can have a voice. I would not give that up. -shrug-
Whenever you have offices that are available to anyone, you might have those of poor character, incompetence, and nefarious intentions who become a leader. Call it a form of political Russian roulette, I suppose. How can one prevent that? That doesn't mean you'll always get poor leaders. What solution is there? Anarchy? No governing at all since power can go to a person's head. I dunno what you would replace our system with, like what?
Edit: Oops, I see your response now. Hmm, gonna have to think about this one.
I am not suggesting your vote be taken away. Not at all. In fact the opposite would be true. You would be choosing between candidates that have a proven track record of leadership. When I say that they should come from business I mean that those are the sort of people who like to achieve. They are driven. And they understand economics. And if they have dodgy tax declarations and any history of bankruptcy or criminal behaviour they are automatically excluded. That means that idiots like Trump would not be eligible. Or Clinton for that matter. There would be very few candidates to choose from but at least you know they are the real McCoy.
The more I think about this the more I realise it's your Constitution that needs a reboot. In any event something needs to change. Your current electoral process is starting to look like a circus. The lunatics are indeed running the asylum.