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Politics - Oceansoul - 07-09-2016
Jerome Wrote:He doesn't. That's just political rhetoric. The basic bottom line is the USA is totally screwed. Neither of the candidates are fit for office. I think Americans should call for a referendum to cancel the elections until suitable possible candidates for office can be found. The current two do not have a clue about leadership and neither displays any integrity whatsoever. They are basically just wealthy scum. What I would like to know is how could the two parties actually endorse these idiots? Major balls-up on the horizon!
The only other question I have is which country is the USA going to invade once one of these morons is elected?
I'm sure it is just rhetoric, but this is still an election for the President of the United States and hearing him say these things will matter if he is somehow elected.
Politics - Jerome - 07-09-2016
I know what you're saying but to be quite honest these politicians change their viewpoints like they change their underwear. It's all about saying what they think the electorate wants to hear at any given point in time as opposed to actually having principles and a plan. I am sure there are many capable candidates in the USA but these two are just con artists. The EU is overflowing with dead-beat freeloaders as well. The world is in a sad state indeed. And has anyone noticed the surge in the far-right in many countries in central and eastern Europe? The times they are indeed a changing! I remember in Italy at one stage they were electing ex-porn stars to parliament (courtesy of Berlusconi). The only experience they have of politics is that they slept with half the cabinet!
Politics - Oceansoul - 10-09-2016
Jerome Wrote:I know what you're saying but to be quite honest these politicians change their viewpoints like they change their underwear. It's all about saying what they think the electorate wants to hear at any given point in time as opposed to actually having principles and a plan. I am sure there are many capable candidates in the USA but these two are just con artists. The EU is overflowing with dead-beat freeloaders as well. The world is in a sad state indeed. And has anyone noticed the surge in the far-right in many countries in central and eastern Europe? The times they are indeed a changing! I remember in Italy at one stage they were electing ex-porn stars to parliament (courtesy of Berlusconi). The only experience they have of politics is that they slept with half the cabinet!
True. However, I tend to respect someone more if they have actual principles and stand by them which seems to be sorely lacking in these elections. A Candidate will say x and get some voters hopes up then they get voted in and do nothing they said they would do. "Oh about that job creation bill." It's so frustrating. It's one thing to come across new information and change one's position with sound reasoning, I can understand that, but to change them like they are meaningless? Ugh.
I think there are capable candidates here too. Anyway, yeah I've heard about the far right making some waves in Europe, especially since the Refugee crisis started. Heh, Italy's Parliament sounds like a mess.
Politics - CRAZY-HORSE - 11-09-2016
Jerome Wrote:I know what you're saying but to be quite honest these politicians change their viewpoints like they change their underwear. It's all about saying what they think the electorate wants to hear at any given point in time as opposed to actually having principles and a plan. I am sure there are many capable candidates in the USA but these two are just con artists. The EU is overflowing with dead-beat freeloaders as well. The world is in a sad state indeed. And has anyone noticed the surge in the far-right in many countries in central and eastern Europe? The times they are indeed a changing! I remember in Italy at one stage they were electing ex-porn stars to parliament (courtesy of Berlusconi). The only experience they have of politics is that they slept with half the cabinet!
that's what happens when these politicians let all those refugees in without consulting the general public about what they think...
the same thing is happening here also,
and to be honest I cannot blame people for taking extremist views because the refugees come in, theyre giving housing, dirt cheap loans, instant access to the welfare system and free medical assistance while the rest of the population gets little help from the State even when they've paid their taxes for years/decades...
I feel sorry for those genuine refugees who have to leave their country for strange lands they've probably never even heard of because of war/political unrest in their homelands but I think we have a bigger duty to "take care of our own" first and foremost before we inherit problems and/or create problems concerning outsiders.
Politics - Oceansoul - 11-09-2016
CRAZY-HORSE Wrote:that's what happens when these politicians let all those refugees in without consulting the general public about what they think...
the same thing is happening here also,
and to be honest I cannot blame people for taking extremist views because the refugees come in, theyre giving housing, dirt cheap loans, instant access to the welfare system and free medical assistance while the rest of the population gets little help from the State even when they've paid their taxes for years/decades...
I feel sorry for those genuine refugees who have to leave their country for strange lands they've probably never even heard of because of war/political unrest in their homelands but I think we have a bigger duty to "take care of our own" first and foremost before we inherit problems and/or create problems concerning outsiders.
The majority of them are just victims of ISIS though. Interestingly, in WWII there were Jewish refugees who originally tried fleeing Germany before the US got into the war and the US turned them away... it didn't end very well for them either. Nah, the US turned their backs on them and would let them die. I don't get why countries who can afford to help refugees want to keep them out so badly. I just see a lot of fear-mongering and confirmation bias with these nationalists.
Politics - Oceansoul - 11-09-2016
Most US states already have a refugee program, I even googled my state's plans. So yeah, I see some people are trying to milk the crisis for their own political ends and fanning the flames.
Politics - Jerome - 12-09-2016
And on a different note, I think both Trump and Clinton are too old for office. They are completely out of touch with what's going on in the world today. I would like to see a leader who comes from normal suburbia, not one who was born with a silver spoon. How can anyone have even the vaguest idea of what life is like for the average Joe and Jill if they have all the trappings of wealth? When you don't have to worry about paying bills you have no perception of the reality of life on the street. They're out of touch, out of tune and out of time. Rethink required.
Politics - Lovely Linda - 12-09-2016
We will never see a common Joe or Jill in the WH. It's all about how much money they have and how corrupt they are.
After today how can someone say Hillary is in good health. Her health was and is a big cover-up.
However, Trump and Hillary both need to expose their complete health reports.
Politics - Jerome - 12-09-2016
Anyone seen the amount of YT videos questioning the state of Hillary Clinton's health. I am no expert on these matters but something is seriously wrong with her. Looks like she is having some sort of seizure in one of them??!!?? If she is indeed ill - and she would surely be aware of this - why is she risking her health by continuing with her campaign and also possibly compromising the highest office in the land? Only one answer - naked ambition. Win at any cost seems to be the motto here.
Politics - Oceansoul - 12-09-2016
I don't know what's going on with Hillary's health, that is concerning. As far as having an average person run for office and winning, I have a hard time seeing how that would work out.