i picked up a copy of this cd mistaking it for between the burried and me as they were in the same section at hmv however, one of the best mistakes i have ever made. they have fast become one of my top three bands supported by thrice and avenged sevenfold. i recommend them to anyone who likes hardcore. very talented musicians. if you are interested, download a song called "love lost in a hail of gun fire" just the opening riff is enough to make me satisfied with the whole cd.