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    Default Santana - IV

    enters the Billboard Top 200 Albums chart this week at #5

    from the Spotify world



    the streak of good albums had to end
    23rd album
    I have 1 plus a Hits set
    just never got into them
    the title is a reference to this being the 4th album with the original lineup
    a few instrumental jams on this one
    Ronald Isley featured on vocals on 2 tracks
    that didn't help
    yes Carlos can play the guitar

    first single

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    I always liked Santana but never really needed an album of theirs until a few years ago when I picked up the compilation "The Ultimate Santana". For someone like me, this is probably all I need from them - a very comprehensive selection from their earlier and later periods, including all, or nearly all, of their big hits.

    As for the new album, I have heard the single, and it's good, but so similar to Oye Como Va (which, I hasten to add, is one of their best songs) that I am wondering if Santana IV offers anything new for someone who already has, say, Abraxas.

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    I wouldn't consider myself a fan or otherwise of Santana as ive only heard a few tracks, I wont base an opinion on a dozen songs from an artist of such longevity.

    Abraxas was recommended to me by someone on this forum a while ago, when I find it I will purchase it to see what all the hoopla is about them.
    if I don't find it by years' end I will consider purchasing "the ultimate Santana" instead

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    I recommend the following albums by Santana - just my opinion!

    Abraxas
    Oneness
    Zebop
    Inner Secrets (the most commercially accessible album - one for you CH)
    Marathon
    Moonflower
    Caravanserai

    What I consider his signature piece - https://youtu.be/j5AUm_xaE9A

    My favourite from Inner Secrets - https://youtu.be/GZ2ya7G7wlI

    One of his more commercial efforts - just love this track - https://youtu.be/JoZLdivjgjE

    And one of the best guitar solos ever - this is how to play the guitar, boys and girls - https://youtu.be/SKGjrCjfDnY


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    ^^
    I kept wanting to sing out the song titles on those 3

    like on that part that goes

    da-da-da-da-da-da

    I would sing I Love You Much Too Much
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    I've been a Santana fan for a loooong time, and when he came out with Guitar Heaven a few years back, I was severely disappointed. A lot of his playing now days is just 'phoned-in' noodling using the same old worn out song structures. I saw him live not too long ago, and had that same feeling. I get it though, he's aging and he doesn't have the chops like he used to. I won't be running to the store any time soon to grab this new one, and I hope I'm wrong about having lost faith in his abilities as a musician. As for his best work though, I'll agree with what was posted above, but also add "Blues For Salvador" and one of his live albums "Sacred Fire: Live in South America". The latter being something I throw on Chromecast on a regular basis, and it has one of the best versions of Black Magic Woman ever recorded live. Those percussionists (Raul R.I.P. and Karl) are on point! The entire show is well worth a listen.

    Here's the full live performance:


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    I hear you MH!

    Plankton - I have Blues for Salvador - that 'Bella' track is superb. Written for his daughter (If I remember correctly) - will check out Sacred Fire.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jerome View Post
    I recommend the following albums by Santana - just my opinion!

    Abraxas
    Oneness
    Zebop
    Inner Secrets (the most commercially accessible album - one for you CH)
    Marathon
    Moonflower
    Caravanserai

    What I consider his signature piece - https://youtu.be/j5AUm_xaE9A

    My favourite from Inner Secrets - https://youtu.be/GZ2ya7G7wlI

    One of his more commercial efforts - just love this track - https://youtu.be/JoZLdivjgjE

    And one of the best guitar solos ever - this is how to play the guitar, boys and girls - https://youtu.be/SKGjrCjfDnY


    thanks for the heads up Jerome.

    as or your other tracks linked...

    1. the signature tune....has a bit of a Knopfler feel, especially early on

    2. 'inner secrets' track....again a slight Knopfler feel at the start, I like the change halfway through, sounds like it belongs on a Style Council album

    3. a commercial effort.....has a bit of a Phil Collins vibe

    4. "i love you much too much"....never heard it before, nice guitar work, you wont get no argument from me as to his 'wielding the axe' capabilities

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    Yes Plankton!!! An incredible live album! For the most part I prefer live albums however their Woodstock performance and Abraxas still blows me away!
    Quote Originally Posted by Plankton View Post
    I've been a Santana fan for a loooong time, and when he came out with Guitar Heaven a few years back, I was severely disappointed. A lot of his playing now days is just 'phoned-in' noodling using the same old worn out song structures. I saw him live not too long ago, and had that same feeling. I get it though, he's aging and he doesn't have the chops like he used to. I won't be running to the store any time soon to grab this new one, and I hope I'm wrong about having lost faith in his abilities as a musician. As for his best work though, I'll agree with what was posted above, but also add "Blues For Salvador" and one of his live albums "Sacred Fire: Live in South America". The latter being something I throw on Chromecast on a regular basis, and it has one of the best versions of Black Magic Woman ever recorded live. Those percussionists (Raul R.I.P. and Karl) are on point! The entire show is well worth a listen.

    Here's the full live performance:

    " WHEN I WAS FIVE YEARS OLD, MY MOTHER ALWAYS TOLD ME THAT HAPPINESS WAS THE KEY TO LIFE. WHEN I WENT TO SCHOOL, THEY ASKED ME WHAT I WANTED TO BE WHEN I GREW UP. I WROTE DOWN "HAPPY". THEY TOLD ME I DIDN'T UNDERSTAND THE ASSIGNMENT AND I TOLD THEM THEY DIDN'T UNDERSTAND LIFE."

    - JOHN LENNON

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    I love Santana I bought most of the albums Borboletta is a favourite
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