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    Default Marilyn Manson - The Pale Emporer

    enters the Billboard chart this week at #8

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    4.0 of 5.0 by allmusic

    9th studio album
    keeping industrial alive
    once again a decent album

    artist website -

    Bio - from allmusic

    Marilyn Manson, the self-proclaimed "Antichrist Superstar," became a mainstream antihero, much to the chagrin of conservative politicians and concerned parents. His
    vision of dark, arty, industrial metal pushed many of his singles -- including "The Dope Show," "The Beautiful People," and a cover of Eurythmics' "Sweet Dreams (Are
    Made of This)" -- into the upper reaches of the modern rock charts during the late '90s and early 2000s.

    Born Brian Warner, Manson was raised in Canton, Ohio. At the age of 18, he relocated to Tampa Bay, Florida, where he worked as a music journalist. In 1989, he
    became friends with guitarist and fellow outsider Scott Mitchell; the two soon decided to form a band, with Mitchell rechristening himself Daisy Berkowitz and Warner
    adopting the name Marilyn Manson. With the addition of bassist Gidget Gein and keyboardist Madonna Wayne-Gacy, the group -- originally dubbed Marilyn Manson &
    the Spooky Kids -- began self-releasing cassettes and playing gigs, their gothic stage show notable for Manson's elaborate makeup and homemade special effects.
    Jettisoning their drum machine in favor of Sara Lee Lucas, the band's sound began taking on a harder edge, and by 1992 they were among the most popular acts in the
    South Florida area. In 1993, Nine Inch Nails' Trent Reznor came calling, offering both a contract with his Nothing Records label as well as the chance to open for NIN the
    following spring; Manson accepted both offers, and the group's debut LP, Portrait of an American Family, appeared during the summer of 1994. With new bassist
    Twiggy Ramirez replacing Gein, the group's notoriety began to soar. Most infamously, during an appearance in Salt Lake City, Manson ripped apart a copy of the Book
    of Mormon while on-stage. The Church of Satan's founder, Anton LaVey, also bestowed upon him the title of "Reverend."

    Manson's cult following continued to swell, and the band broke into the mainstream with the release of 1995's Smells Like Children EP, propelled by their hit cover of
    Eurythmics' "Sweet Dreams (Are Made of This)." Berkowitz quit a short time later and was replaced by guitarist Zim Zum, and the revised group saw their next LP,
    1996's Antichrist Superstar, debut at the number three spot on the pop album charts and sell nearly two million copies in the U.S. alone. As Manson's popularity grew, so
    did the furor surrounding him. His concerts were regularly picketed by civic groups, and his music was the subject of widespread attacks from right-wing and religious

    The glam-inspired Mechanical Animals followed in September 1998, becoming the band's first to top the charts. The resulting tour yielded a live album, Last Tour on
    Earth, one year later. Holy Wood (In the Shadow of the Valley of Death) came out at the end of 2000, just barely missing the Top Ten, and the band toured to support the
    album during 2001. That December, Manson's version of "Tainted Love" appeared on the Not Another Teen Movie soundtrack.

    May 2003 saw the release of The Golden Age of Grotesque, which spent a week atop the album charts and ended up on several critics' year-end Top Ten lists. At the
    end of September, Manson released a greatest-hits affair titled Lest We Forget. The collection covered the highlights of Manson's career and included a new cover
    version of Depeche Mode's "Personal Jesus," whose success helped push the album to gold status in multiple countries.

    Late in 2005, the band announced that a new album was nearly finished; however, it wasn't until 2007 that Eat Me, Drink Me was released. The record was largely
    written, performed, and produced by Manson and guitarist/bassist Tim Skold, who left Marilyn Manson's lineup shortly thereafter and was replaced by returning member
    Twiggy Ramirez. Manson and Ramirez then began writing material for the band's seventh studio album, The High End of Low, which arrived in spring 2009 and reached
    number four in the charts.

    In 2011, during preparation for the release of the band's eighth studio album, drummer Ginger Fish announced he had left the group. Later that same year, Manson
    premiered a short film in support of the album titled Born Villain. The film, directed by actor Shia La Beouf, was not a music video for a specific track, but a stand-alone
    short. The album Born Villain, featuring the single "No Reflection," was released in 2012 and debuted inside the Top Ten. Recording began one year later for The Pale
    Emperor, which saw release early in 2015 on Loma Vista for the U.S. and Cooking Vinyl internationally. Shortly before the album's release, Rolling Stone magazine ran
    an interview with Manson that, among other things, proclaimed the record his best work since Antichrist Superstar.

    Album Review - from allmusic

    In 2012, icons of evil Marilyn Manson issued their eighth album, Born Villain, a surprisingly strong record that redeemed some of the weaker work that they'd been
    churning out since they reached their zenith of popularity and artistry in the late '90s. The album got closer to the intensity and showmanship of their most over the top
    days without simply sounding like a band trying to relive faded glories. With follow-up The Pale Emperor, Manson and his band continue to ride that comeback hot
    streak, this time working in a decidedly more blues-influenced vein, combining a trademark penchant for lyrical darkness with the most unholy type of biker rock for ten
    songs that swagger and simmer in unexpected ways. The album kicks off with "Killing Strangers," a slow-burning trudge of stomping percussion and sleazy guitar licks,
    coming off like a far more sedated if somewhat grizzled counterpart to the band's 1996 hit "The Beautiful People." There's still some of the industrial metal backbone
    that the band developed throughout its career, but even heavier rockers like "Deep Six" and "Warship My Wreck" roll around in dusty tumbleweeds of blues licks, intense
    percussion, and depraved synthesizers. Many songs for the album were captured in a single take, giving even more cinematic blues ramblers like "Third Day of a Seven
    Day Binge" and "Cupid Carries a Gun" a heightened sense of abandon and danger. Production is loose and humid throughout, and above all Manson and company
    sound like they're stepping away completely from the caricature of themselves that started looming on the band's weakest mid-2000s material. Taking their sound in a
    new, unforeseen bluesy direction accomplishes the near impossible by making Marilyn Manson sound even more sinister than before.

    the guy is so damn creepy:

    Track Listing

    1. Killing Strangers
    2. Deep Six
    3. Third Day of a Seven Day Binge
    4. The Mephistopheles of Los Angeles
    5. Warship My Wreck
    6. Slave Only Dreams To Be King
    7. The Devil Beneath My Feet
    8. Birds of Hell Awaiting
    9. Cupid Carries a Gun
    10. Odds of Even
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    Another artist who really never releases a sub par album!


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    Quote Originally Posted by SteveO View Post
    Another artist who really never releases a sub par album!
    Absolutely true...and this is from someone who has utter contempt for his music and performances. Where I can get close to him is admiring the craftsmanship (of the songwriting and staging) and workmanship (having the strength and ability to put all that together well). That said, having heard a few tunes off the latest, I just ordered it. If nothing else, it shows we should always keep an open-mind--still with a garbage filter--AND see what a long-time artist is doing nowadays and not rely on a frequently foggy/fogey memory.
    A man accustomed to hear only the echo of his own sentiments, soon bars all the common avenues of delight, and has no part in the general gratification of mankind--Dr. Johnson
    What he said. Amen, Bro--JazzboCR

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    The Golden Age of Grotesque...
    that was my favourite of theirs...has an almost Glam Rock feel happening on some of the tracks...

    MM is also a highly intelligent person in real life, he calculates his every move, every controversy and more importantly pushes every rule to the boundary...
    sometimes he even picks up the rule book,and deliberately throws it off the cliff wall!

    he is a an of many facets and contradictions, and that shows in his part 'model/glamour queen' the other part that of a man who enticed and procured people to commit mass murder and carnage.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CRAZY-HORSE View Post
    pushes every rule to the boundary...
    sometimes he even picks up the rule book,and deliberately throws it off the cliff wall!
    He once in the temple city of Mormonism that is Salt Lake City, Utah, ripped their holy book in half and threw it down. That's a "gather the lynch-mob" action.
    A man accustomed to hear only the echo of his own sentiments, soon bars all the common avenues of delight, and has no part in the general gratification of mankind--Dr. Johnson
    What he said. Amen, Bro--JazzboCR

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